She is a seperate collective to the one Janeway/Picard encountered.

Jurati is a mix of alternate timeline queen with El Aurian like powers connected to queens from all across the multiverse. Together Jurati/Queen started a new kind of collective. The other queen/s collective is still out there and started thousands of years ago. Janeway set them back and maybe killed prime universes original queen… unless she uploaded herself again… it’s not clear how she kept escaping physical death in the first place. Although alternate queen uploading herself into Jurati kinda gives us one potential way, how queens can come back.

@Baggins That is logical. Thank you.

Agreed with @Baggins . I got the impression Jurati’s collective is limited to that ship because she was only taking volunteers to create community and that was enough.

I wonder if they ever met up with some of the other separatist and resistance collectives seen throughout the shows? Also poor Hugh :(…

That could be a great Trek yarn—the meeting of the Borgs. And I agree…poor Hugh…and Icheb. I can’t stand Narissa nor Bijayzl!

Totally forgot about Icheb was bit miffed how underutilized he was in Picard… if your gonna kill him off at least give him some more screen time before you do it. To give more emotional impact. As it was it just felt like cheap shock value device.

I appreciate that perspective. For me, I thought it was a horrible way for Icheb to die (even though it wasn’t Manu Iteraymi; I really like Manu’s portrayal of Icheb…I also have met him a few times and he is very kind & genuine), but I thought it served the story well, helped propel it along. 🖖🏾

I think have given him a whole episode before killing him off… show how and why he was in that situation. Not just tell us and give a brief flashback… in that regards I think that episode in Discovery showing Tarka’s past and loss of his friend has better impact. They could have threaded a story together like that. I think it would give new viewers some more understanding of the character without knowledge of the original show’s background. It would still propel the story forward too.

I agree. Icheb deserved much better.

There is more than one queen, as there are separate collectives