Naomi Wildman isn’t a Federation citizen. Think about it: her parents are species from the Federation (Human and Ktarian) but she was born in the Delta Quadrant and therefore isn’t considered a Federation citizen.
Naomi Wildman isn’t a Federation citizen. Think about it: her parents are species from the Federation (Human and Ktarian) but she was born in the Delta Quadrant and therefore isn’t considered a Federation citizen.
Yes, but that seems a logical, sensible approach…if the parents are citizens, it follows the child is as well…
Exactly!
Interesting. If voyager was considered federation territory (kind of like an embassy), then naomi would still be a federation citizen even if the federation used territory based citizenship.
It could be that where you're born determines your citizenship in the federation, in which case naomi wasn't a federation citizen (at least until she reached earth and could become a naturalized citizen).
However, a system where you're automatically a federation citizen as long as at least one of your parents was a federation citizen, or even just if your homeworld is a federation member, probably makes more sense for the federation.
Most countries decide citizenship based on the nationality of the parents, not the birthplace of the child. And who knows how aliens approach it?
How one gains citizenship is not consistent enough to determine citizenship based on location of birth or parentage. All the "realizations" are just speculation masquerading as knowledge.
It's uttlerly irrelevant as long as the Voyager has no connections to the federation. As soon as they reach federation space, or at least come in contact range, Naomi can apply for admission, and surey will be accepted without much bureocratic hazzle.
We know they won't take 70 years...
If they would take 70 or even 30 years, on the other hand, and a whole new generation would be born, Naomi's case would become much more relevant as an example.
Without knowing this part of Federation law, this is unanswerable. You can’t argue by analogy with current laws because every country has its own rules.
if you happen to have a copy of this section of Federation law, I’m sure we’d all love to read it.
Ships and aircrafts are the territory of the nation they are operated by. It's the law.
An attack on a ship is an attack on the soil of that nation, hence, an act of war.
Due to tax/tracking evasions ships would operate under different flags but we won't go into this here.
Whether someone is born in that territory is entitle to that nation's citizenship is another matter. Generally the child inherits the citizenship of its parents regardless of place of birth. So dual citizenship is possible until they come of age. Then another set of laws come into play dependent on each nation's law or treaties.
These are just the default. Of course plot devises don't need to care... so everything is actually pointless to dicuss. lel
^ Technically partially true, but misleading. Many countries let ships fly their flag almost purely for money and do little or nothing to defend them. Also, ship registry rarely has anything to do with citizenship. You also forgot to mention the territory issue really only applies to military and diplomatic ships.
The largest ship registries are Panama and Liberia and I doubt they do anything to defend 99.99% of their registered ships. Landlocked Mongolia also has a major registry, as does landlocked Bolivia.
I did say it was for money's sake. And ofc it touches on the powers that be so this is often conveniently overlooked. Just look at the recent American Congress obscuring aircraft ownership information and tracking: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/3935/text#toc-HB1127EA773264D0AB987A53936FA325F
You can bet it's a reaction to people tracking the russian oligarch due to the Ukraine war.
Anyhow, only applying to military and dimplomatic vessels is not true. See https://www.noaa.gov/jurisdiction-over-vessels
The only reason it's not excercised often is because you would need to regualate by placing people like customs. Note customs shops on cruise ships.
What do you think?