Box office drop
- It seems to have been an error on UIP's part. UIP has a page tracking the film's international box office here and they had the film at $128+ million, but then it went down. My best guess is that they accidentally attributed earnings from another film to Star Trek, or perhaps there was an error with their banking records. When they found their error, they corrected it. I think the current gross is correct, but I will e-mail the site and see if I can find out for sure what's going on. --From Andoria with Love 15:13, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
- E-mail sent. :) Let's see what they say. --From Andoria with Love 15:22, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
- Here's the response I got:
- "The correct number is $127,764,536. This is after year end adjustments. A number of countries report flash box office numbers during the run and these are adjusted with confirmed final numbers."
- And there you have it. The current number is accurate, the $128+ million number was the result of "flash box office numbers." How any numbers could be several hundred thousand dollars off target is beyond me, though. :-P --From Andoria with Love 00:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
It is a bit weird that the system has a margin of error that large, but oh well. It's nice to know that the numbers are correct eventually (and I'm just going to assume that the "flash" money really went to Project:Swordfish). Thanks for checking. :) - Archduk3 00:21, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Teddy Pendergrass, American soul singer and songwriter
- Petra Schürmann, German model, news anchor, and actress
– Tom 01:04, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Zelda Rubinstein, actress (Poltergeist, Picket Fences) --From College with Love
- To go on irc once in a while. — Morder (talk) 05:22, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
I thought Miles was killed when the Ent-E rammed the Scimitar in Nemesis. Is this not correct? Thanks. 126.96.36.199 05:28, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
Where are they now?
Shran, my friend, you should update Bak-attacks current project, seeing that Men of a Certain Age is currently airing. Much love --Italianajt 20:43, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Done, and I updated everyone else's work, too. Thanks for contacting me, I had completely forgotten about that section. :)
- Done. Great job confirming Bob Hoy for Trek. I kinda suspected that was Hoy in that picture. Good work! :) --From Andoria with Love 19:44, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
- I considered that, but the Haiti notice is already on the main page and I didn't feel it was right to replace that with a missing persons alert. I also didn't think adding a second notice would fly. If the community is willing to go for it, though, then I'm okay with it. However, Koenig is not yet presumed dead, at least not officially. --From Andoria with Love 21:46, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
- I think it looks fine the way it is. Between the bold font and the header box, I'm sure it'll grab enough attention. Having said that, we could try making it a notice header but still leave it in the news panel. But I think the way it is now is fine. The word has gotten out there already, it's being reported by most of the major news sites, so I don't think we need anything elaborate. --From Andoria with Love 23:59, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Sandy Kenyon, actor
- Charles B. Pierce, filmmaker
- Philip Langridge, tenor
- Lolly Vegas, singer
- Ron Banks, vocalist
- Richard Stapley aka Richard Wyler, actor
- Tony Campise, saxophonist
- Bernard Kates – Tom 18:03, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Merlin Olsen, former football player and actor – Tom 18:15, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- John Forsythe (1918-2010)  – Tom 19:46, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
What do you think?
- Nice! By all means, go ahead and add Boston Legal. You can use this list here if you want. However, I haven't gone through the episodes to add anyone who may have done both Boston Legal and 2009's Star Trek; some of those might be missing. But I would say that list is probably 99.99% complete. :) --From Andoria with Love 19:18, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- I have not been able to confirm his death. I have contacted the MPSE, though, and asked if they can confirm. We'll see what they say. We can leave the uncited death date there until they respond. --From Andoria with Love 19:20, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
Go there. --bp 03:22, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
...for the suggestion to create an account. It will be the same one that I'm using for the Dutch and English Wikipedia: KeesInvites. 188.8.131.52 16:43, March 30, 2010 (UTC)184.108.40.206
Not to be precocious...but could I keep the Fraggle Rock page as a sub-page? If this is out of the question then please disregard but at least I thought I should ask.--Obey the Fist!! 20:33, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
- I concour the fraggle rock page should be kept in some form (Thetrekinator 20:38, April 1, 2010 (UTC))
- It is kept. It comes back every year. Unfortunately. -- sulfur 21:07, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Yes. It's like Groundhog Day, just without the Funny! :P -- Cid Highwind 21:09, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Feel free to keep it as a sub-page. This might be it's last year in existence, since it's been used for three straight years now. Time for some new material, methinks. By the way, have you read the latest news on the main page lately? :) --From Andoria with Love 00:19, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
- HA! Excellent, Smithers! There's one born every minute. :) --From Andoria with Love 00:53, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
Shran you fiend! I almost believed the news! Oh well, April Fools on me.--Obey the Fist!! 03:22, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
- When it hits midnight on the West Coast, I guess. :) --From Andoria with Love 09:21, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
- That's a good point, and after I undid the merge I figured that's why you did it. I'm not 100% sure yet I will retire it, though. I'll think about it for a little while and talk it over with others and if the consensus is to retire it, then I'll go ahead and re-merge them with Italianajt's sub-page. What do you think, though, should it be retired? I still intend on creating new material for April Fools next year, and Fraggle Rock could make a return appearance, as well. After all, people actually expanded upon it this year, they may want to so again next year. Let me know what you think. :) --From Andoria with Love 18:07, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Kill it. It would be a lot better if the "pranks" (and I use that term loosely) were more thought-out - and possibly even relevant to new material. The news story on the front page was a good direction but poorly executed. I only think that because it was clearly over the top. :) Anyway, kill it. — Morder (talk) 18:29, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
- I would think it would be better to let the Muppets go, as much as it pains me to say that about any of Jim Henson's creations. Morder has a point, since the rumor mill should be in full swing by next year for the new movie, and I can think of several other ideas for "classic" Trek spoofs. :) - Archduk3 19:32, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
http://memory-alpha.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Fan+gaming&year=&month=-1&hide_patrol_log=1 So I'm trying to view the history so I can see an old revision of that page and I can't. Any ideas? — Morder (talk) 20:40, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
- It's been merged with Fan fiction. Like all of the other "fan" stuff. -- sulfur 21:09, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, sulfur. I found what I was looking for and it wasn't what I was really looking for. :) Star Trek: Rescue! seems like the right game but the graphics on the site I looked at don't seem to match my memory - but that's what memories do...lie to us :) — Morder (talk) 23:31, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Rework Armin Shimerman's page
- Expand Mitchell Ryan's page
- Alan Sillitoe, Shay Duffin
- Walter Sear, Tanie Kitabayashi
- Don Guest, Max Palevsky
From the orphaned site
Vandals and blocks
We had a spate of them a while ago that would vandalize, then come back ~10-12 hours later and hit 2-3 more pages (before being caught). We found that a simple 1 week block made them go away and not return. This was all happening while you were doing your thesis play. Ergo, the behaviour of immediate block, and a simple "screw off". Someone that acts like that is just not going to be a worthwhile member here any time soon. :) -- sulfur 18:24, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Ahh, I see. Well, if that's what was decided upon, far be it from me to intervene. :) --From Andoria with Love 18:33, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
I wanted to point out this, http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/Xmen.php vs http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/StarTrek.php As you can tell the xmen series out grossed every star trek film excluding the most recent reboot, When I said Patrick Stewart gained more success in the X-Men movies then he did in the Star Trek ones you undid my edit and left a message to the effect of "What you think doesnt matter". As You can see they were more successful but here I taught articles were supposed to be true information which I tried to express and you disregarded based on your opinion. Anyway I dont edit anything on here anymore (pretty much because of you) so you wont need to undo anymore of my attempts to improve this wiki. (http://memory-alpha.org/index.php?title=Patrick_Stewart&diff=1071419&oldid=1071403) is what I am referring to. Thanks for making me feel welcome.--220.127.116.11 00:44, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
- I am not Shran, but he is correct. Yes, articles ares supposed to be true information, but this is a Star Trek wiki, not wikipedia. We're not here to document information not having to do with Trek. You may be correct about the numbers, but there are other ways to measure success aside from box office reciepts, that is why it is your opinion that such information means Stewart had more success with X-Men.
- No one has asked you not to edit, or desires it, but edits here are best when they are in keeping with our mission here. If you wish to learn about it, we can help.--31dot 02:08, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
- The first paragraph of an actor's article on MA establishes the Trek character that person played and the episodes/films in which he appeared. What you did, 109.255, was remove the relevant info stating that Stewart played Picard in the Star Trek films and replaced it with information that was not yet relevant. His role in X-Men is described later in the article; the first paragraph explains why this person has a page on a Star Trek wiki. The article in its current state is saying that Picard is best known for playing Jean-Luc Picard in TNG and in four Star Trek films -- and this is undeniably true, no matter how much the X-Men films earned at the box office. (Box office numbers, for the record, are often irrelevant in these cases.) I'm sorry my reversion made you decide not to edit anymore, but my statement was essentially correct: you replaced relevant, Trek-related information with irrelevant opinion in a paragraph describing an actor's Trek work. --From Andoria with Love 02:42, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
- I accept that I changed the layout in changing the opening paragraph I just feel and its not based souly on box office numbers. (Even when Patrick stared in Hamlet there was a notice saying he would not sign any star trek or x-men merchandise. I think it is wrong to state that he is most well known for his film roles in star trek, obviously he is known for his tv work as Jean-Luc Picard however I think the x-men films reached a wider audience then his trek films. Its not so much someone reverting my edit, I've been on Wikipedia for a few years, its the snide dismissive comment that was left without any sort of follow up. Thanks for the reply.--18.104.22.168 02:42, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, the paragraph is essentially saying, "He is best known for playing Jean-Luc Picard, whom he played on Star Trek: The Next Generation and its feature films." We could reword it that way, I suppose. Also, a line indicating his role in the X-Men films could be added but without the removal of other info; I'll go ahead and do that after this comment. As for my comment when reverting your edit, I don't *think* I was intending to be snide (though it could have been at a time I was tired, moody, angry, etc.); looking at it, though, I can see how it can come off as such, and for that I apologize. What I really meant by it though was that you replaced a Trek credit with a non-Trek credit, which shouldn't be done on a Trek wiki. I should have made my comment clearer and less spiteful-sounding; my apologies for that. --From Andoria with Love 16:00, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, I appreciate you taking the time to listen to me. I didnt mean to come off as an ásshole or anything, I just felt annoyed ya know. Maybe I will contribute some more here after all. Hehe. --22.214.171.124 02:42, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
- No worries. You didn't come off like that; you came off as irritated, which you had a right to be given the way I wrote my comment. I'm glad you're considering making further edits. I'll try to be more clear and less snide in my future comments. :) --From Andoria with Love 04:51, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
Apologies for the edit war...it totally wasn't worth it. On the plus side, it got me that much closer to a thousand edits...Yay! -Angry Future Romulan 05:45, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
Could use some help
You were the first person I thought of.
I'm stuck on part of the renaming process for a page. I corrected "Constitution class (alternate reality)" to "Starship class (alternate reality)" but I can't figure out how to get all the pages linked to the original to update their linkage. Does each have to be manually updated or is there a batch process that can handle this? It's a LOT of links. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Capt Christopher Donovan (talk • contribs).
- I was about to leave a message on your talk page Donovan, but I'll bug Shran instead. We need a citation for your changes first, such as a picture or production source saying it was a Starship class. - Archduk3 23:03, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
image of the plaque from the "virtual set tour" or the bridge Capt Christopher Donovan 23:13, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, right off the bat...was it constructed in Iowa or San Francisco? There would appear to be some contradictory info on this plaque. -Angry Future Romulan 23:20, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm going to post this to the article talk page, so poor Shran's can get a rest. - Archduk3 23:24, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Captain Donovan: First off, great find. :) Secondly, to answer your question, if you don't want to change all the links manually, there are users who have bots which can do the process for you. Among those who have bots are User:Gvsualan, User:Sulfur, User:Cid Highwind, and User:bp. You'll probably have better luck getting a hold of Sulfur, the others don't seem to be around too often. There are others with bots, I just can't think of them all. --From Andoria with Love 04:00, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
long time no type
- Hi, Morder! Given Mr. Schell's credited experience in other films, I'm inclined to believe that what he says is true. He has Star Trek VI listed on his resume, as well, and he seems to be fairly well sought-after in Hollywood (Avatar, 300, Chronicles of Narnia, Hellboy), so I doubt he would lie on his online resume. I think the info is good. :) --From Andoria with Love 04:27, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I kinda figured that - but I figured someone else who could do more research would know more than me. Yes, he has an incredible resume - really awesome to watch him work too. — Morder (talk) 09:22, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
- I figured you figured that, but I figured I would figure in what I figured so we could figure things out. Or something. Anyway, I did do some research and couldn't find anything beyond his resume and YouTube channel which link him to Star Trek VI. I could ask Barney Burman to confirm, if you want. He worked on Star Trek VI and also went uncredited. I'm figuring they at least met during production. --From Andoria with Love 10:38, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Nah, I'm sure this guy did what he did when he did it or else someone might have called him out on it. I can't imagine someone with the credits he has lying about a tiny part of production of film 6. Anyway...I guess that's clear for now. Thanks :) (Btw, check your email) — Morder (talk) 10:59, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
I have an idea about next April, which I'm sure to forget if I wait until then to share. I was thinking the DYK template could be modified so it will display a joke version on fools day. Thought I would run it by you and see what you think, since you seem to be in charge of these hijinks by default. - Archduk3 20:01, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
I know this is not the right place for this but I could not find any other possibility to contact you. My name is Marina, i am a 24 yeald old art student from Germany and I m doing a master work about the storyboards of "the birds". I found out that Harold Michelson did them and I have to include this in my work of course, but the only source about Michelson I got is the wikipedia article. Could you please give me some hints about books dealing with the biography of Michelson?
My E-Mail adress: Marina.Rauch@gmx.net
Thank you very much ;)!
- Hi! You may want to check Michael Rizzo's The Art Direction Handbook for Film, which makes references to Michelson and also includes some pictures of his artwork. I'm not sure if it will give you specifically what you're looking for, but it is worth a look. Marcie Begleiter's From Word to Image: Storyboarding and the Filmmaking Process also seems to reference Michelson. If you're just looking for a source stating that he worked on The Birds, the obituary which the Art Directors Guild wrote for him mentions that film among his credits (you can find that here). Also, the Collector's Edition DVD for The Birds seems to includes a documentary called "About the Birds" which features an interview with Michelson. That's all I can find, though. I hope this helps. Good luck! :) --From Andoria with Love 14:58, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
So I started a new job a few months ago and I happen to mention that Klingon Opera story I posted to the news at work...turns out my boss is a huge star trek fan...and he even appeared in the episode DS9: "Apocalypse Rising" as T'vis...I would love to add his name to the site as he's not currently listed but he asked me to keep it under my hat...he seems embarrassed by it. But interesting none-the-less. :) — Morder (talk) 05:20, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting, indeed! Nothing to be embarrassed by, though. Try to convince him to let you reveal his name. Not to the point where it gets you fired, of course. If he doesn't, no biggie, and it's still cool regardless that you're actually working for someone who appeared on Trek. Congrats on landing the new job! :) --From Andoria with Love 11:46, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
flagrant advertising - move to remove
Have you seen the Genki Wear page? It doesn't seem like it belongs in Memory-Alpha. I'm not sure how else to report it or to whom so thanks in advance, Shran! Winn cochrane 04:24, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
- It belongs. They are making Star Trek product. -- sulfur 10:06, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
Personnel directory from Demons
This is mostly just out of curiosity, but where did you find the information you used to create Fleet Operations Center personnel? I know it's a while ago, but I'm very curious to see that directory for myself (I'm a sucker for stuff like that), only I can't seem to locate it. Is this from screenshots or some background source, and if the latter where were they published? Hope you remember :) -- Capricorn 20:15, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed I do remember. :) The information came from pictures of the directories sent to me by someone who worked on the show. I have uploaded some of the photos for your viewing pleasure here. (I hope I'm able to share these now...) Enjoy! :) --From Andoria with Love 00:30, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. They're positively awesome, and by extension so are you! -- Capricorn 07:29, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Heh, I don't know about that. But thanks. :) --From Andoria with Love 01:26, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if you're the one to talk to, but here goes. MA's pop-up menus (the "MORE" menu at the top and the four menus in the left sidebar) seem to be broken. Also, the editing buttons (bold, italic, etc.) have disappeared and the searchbox no longer word-predicts. No other wiki has this problem.– JDspeeder1 20:46, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
- That is the problem (the JS not working that is). Wikia has been informed, but nothing has been done about it as yet. -- sulfur 21:20, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, I appreciate it. He wasn't my dog, though, he was my cousins' but he was still family. I lived with them for a year when we first arrived in VA from Germany and have visited every other weekend or so for the past 12 or so years. He was my dog, too, in a way, but it's my cousin Rick who's been most affected by it. He and Patch were best friends. It's hard for me, so I can only imagine how hard it is for Rick. :( --From Andoria with Love 09:32, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
Potential TNG music project
- Whoa... definitely worth it. I'll read through them more thoroughly and expand some stuff in the near future. Thanks for sharing this! :) --From Andoria with Love 12:59, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
Seeking advice per the new look
Hi Shran! Memory Alpha still looks great! With the new look, how would I switch my wiki back to a dark skin? Thank you!---CadmiumX99 03:18, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
Some more cool behind-the-scenes stuff
The first has a few interesting write-ups, the second has some amazing shots. -- sulfur 20:56, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
Hi his middle inital is L JR you can check IMDB datebase for double proof and I know for fact he die in Virginia Beach in 1998 so here is the link again please post it correctly. http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/SingleIndexIndView.aspx?ix=ssdiall&hpp=1&rf=*,z*&qt=i&zdocid=25787778 thank, LOGICAL I AM
Could I get your take?
I don't believe we've met, though I've followed your helpful comments on various subjects. I'm trying to be more useful around here, and I've asked a question about MA's POV policy.
You're a long-time admin who knows a lot about the community and its consensuses (and also seem to be pretty nice – I hope!). Could I get your take on this discussion? I'm afraid otherwise only the ever watchful (and helpful) Sulfur and I will discuss it. I'd really appreciate hearing from you and anyone else you think should weigh in. It's my first time broaching such a serious subject (MA policy)!
I noted that you were having some difficulties with one Anthony Genovese. There are a couple of issues you should be aware of. First, many of the "anonymous" entries responding to you are him. You can easily identify Mr. Genovese's writing style by his repeated use of the words "matter" such as "these important matters" and "here" as in "these important matters here". He tried to mask it, but we could tell! Is he a spammer? Holy Smokes! He is THE spammer/scammer/pariah of the SyFy world in California. He is not allowed in nearly ANY of the conventions because he does not wish to pay AND he causes diversity. He is in arguments all over the web from the IMDB where he is CLEARLY listed under Anthony Genovese. He is also Oscar-35 on the message boards. After nearly single handedly pulling the Variety forums down, Mr. Genovese is just about to be yanked on IMDB due to his repeated and relentless attacks not only on Hidden Frontier's message board, but during any public interaction AT ALL. He was not on the 2009 Star Trek movie. That's a lie to irritate John Whiting. He was not on Minority Report. He was on the set less than an hour and his part was cut. He was not on Wild Hogs. He cleaned up a jobsite and ASSUMED it was the Wild Hog set. Or decided it was. He's lied so much even he don't know what's true any more. At MikCom, he was allowed to show some bloopers he has collected over the years, but only two people showed up to the panel. One was his girlfriend and the other left soon after. He was not invited back. He has not been invited to a convention in decades. He just makes too much trouble. He's been thrown out of clubs. The USS Angeles and the Time Meddlars here in Los Angeles. FYI, not a nice man. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 126.96.36.199 (talk).
- You not only should have the skill to debate properly but also have a good sense when to agree to disagree - and when to walk away or just keep quiet. I would not use the above anonymous stalker troll poster for a information source anymore than a lay person would go to the tobacco companies for collecting information on the benefits of smoking their product. The smear poster is projecting his actions and weaknesses on an innocent person. This is pure B$ 188.8.131.52 19:51, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
- First, my talk page is not a place to post accusations nor is it a place to debate an individual's integrity. Second, this is no longer about whether or not Mr. Genovese is telling the truth or whether or not he's a nice man. It's about the lack of valid sources (news reports, production documents, statements from confirmed production personnel, etc.) which are required to verify his claims. We have not been able to confirm, outside of Mr. Genovese's own word, that he worked on a Star Trek production. There is no need to post smears and accusations against Mr. Genovese as it does not sway us one way or another. It's about one thing: valid sources. That's it. --From Andoria with Love 22:18, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
What is all this Alaraca?....salutes!
What is all this Alaraca?....salutes!
my friends and i want to build a prometheus class alfa section and where loking for blueprints that whe can use
if you have any please let me know
if you want to be in the crew also let me know that (please remember to let me know what department you want to be in
--Armando.thijssen 21:24, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
FYI, when referring to CBS the station, please link to "CBS Television Studios". "CBS" is a disambiguation page. -- sulfur 11:47, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
MAlf must die (or be given a guardian), for the good of Memory Alpha
hey shran. long time no talk, or um edit.
was browsing the site today and realized i was on the site listed as an extra in trek 09. since then i worked on star trek 2, but didn't save my pay stubs like i did the first time so i don't know how to prove that to you guys. also was hoping we could rename the page (Paul Sutherlin Torrez) to just Paul Sutherlin, because that's actually the name i use for extra-ing. anyway, let me know. thanks. Deevolution (talk) 03:12, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry for the very late response. I've brought up both points on your article's talk page talk page. I don't see an issue with renaming the page, but wanted to follow procedure and bring it up for discussion first. Mentioning your work on Trek 2 also shouldn't be a problem, but we'll see. :) --From Andoria with Love (talk) 11:12, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
- I've been coming on for the last few days, updating articles for actors from the new Trek movies. By the way, you forgot to sign your comment. Who are you again? ;) --From Andoria with Love (talk) 04:54, June 4, 2013 (UTC)