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Was used as a temporary image in the discussion on [[Image talk:No image yet.jpg]]. Apparently no longer necessary. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 12:27, 26 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 
Was used as a temporary image in the discussion on [[Image talk:No image yet.jpg]]. Apparently no longer necessary. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 12:27, 26 Dec 2005 (UTC)
 
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== Various images without proper copyright disclaimer ==
 
== Various images without proper copyright disclaimer ==

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Was used as a temporary image in the discussion on Image talk:No image yet.jpg. Apparently no longer necessary. -- Cid Highwind 12:27, 26 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Various images without proper copyright disclaimer

All five images below are not from aired episodes or movies, and as such should not be used under "fair use" conditions. I doubt that the Fact Files, ST:The Magazine or "Art of Star Trek" gave "explicit permission" to use these images, as the used {{imagecopyright}} template implies. All these might also be open for discussion on the copyright infringement page instead. -- Cid Highwind 17:28, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Image:Equinox MSD.jpg (17:28, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • This image is a print of artwork seen onscreen -- therefore i vote to keep it, with the "imageparamount" tag (we've kept other such "fair use" prints before -- under the proviso it must've been seen onscreen). -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk

Image:Emitter.jpg (17:28, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • Fact Files image, no permission implied, delete or replace (this could fall under copyvio, IMO, unless the image was released by being shown onscreen) -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk
  • Replace. We need a close-up image of the Mobile emitter, but this one is probably a copyvio (unless you count the fact that it says it has permission). I'm sure we can find one that'll work. -Platypus Man | Talk 06:43, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)
  • And now we do have another image. Jörg uploaded Image:Mobile emitter.jpg, so this one can be deleted. -Platypus Man | Talk 21:06, 2 Jan 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. — THOR =/\= 03:48, 3 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Self sealing stem bolts.jpg (17:28, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • This image is a photo taken on set or of an actual prop from the show -- does this count as "fair use" (as we have also used pictures of starship models taken "behind the scenes" on the stages. I'd suggest replacing it to use a photo that shows the context of the episode (a screenshot), but if an image like this were kept it would be under the "imageparamount" tag -- and would we credit the photographer, as "Art of Star Trek" does? -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk

Image:Aeroshuttle-docked.jpg (17:28, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • if Fact Files image, no permission implied, delete or replace (see below though).
    • This is a screencap of a test footage that was never aired. If this is test footage that ends up (or has already ended up) on a DVD collection, we could probably classify it as "fair use" (like other DVD "Extra" screencaps -- otherwise it is a copyvio of the magazine that printed the pictures until the video itself is released in such a manner. I have no VOY DVDs so i'm not sure if it is actually a "released" video. -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk

Image:Aeroshuttle-launched.jpg (17:28, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • if Fact Files image, no permission implied, delete. (this could fall under copyvio, IMO) See above subsection for screencap opinion question, though. -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk

Image:Dabo table.jpg (11:59, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • Fact Files image, no permission implied, delete or replace (this could fall under copyvio, IMO, unless the image was released by being shown onscreen)-- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk

Image:Jeff-Allin.jpg (11:59, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • While a game screenshot might be a valid image (if attributed properly), the quality suggests we should delete or replace -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk
    • does anyone else have an opinion on the "fair use" of video game screenshots -- is it something MA should pursue? these actually seem to be "behind the scenes" video game screenshots -- are we going to be going this in depth into the theatrical video games and rides (like the Experience)? -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk
  • From what I can tell, this may have actually scanned from the play manual that came with the game. The poor quality is, in part, attributed to the fact the image was enlarged during the scan. --Alan del Beccio 14:22, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Image:Marnie-McPhail.jpg (11:59, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • While a game screenshot might be a valid image (if attributed properly), the quality suggests we should delete or replace See above for question on video game screenshots -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk
  • From what I can tell, this may have actually scanned from the play manual that came with the game. The poor quality is, in part, attributed to the fact the image was enlarged during the scan. --Alan del Beccio 14:22, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Image:Akira class aft.jpg 20:02, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)

From the Star Trek CCG. While most of their images are screenshots themselves, this one seems to be an original creation. Delete. -- Cid Highwind 20:02, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Yep, I agree, delete, this is neither a screen-shot, or something thats actually been seen on-screen. Zsingaya Talk 10:56, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Image:AndorianEmblem.jpg 10:51, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Even if from the site of one of MA's co-founders, it still needs a proper copyright disclaimer, including permission, if it is original artwork. It also duplicates the existing image Image:andorianimerialpguard.JPG. Delete. -- Cid Highwind 10:51, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. Delete. The second one will work just fine, even if they are both only on one page (the same page). -Platypus Man | Talk 06:47, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Keep. Obviously I'm biased, since I put the image up, but I'm of the opinion that the image is clearer than the screencap. I didn't think to contact the person who reproduced the image from its ENT appearances, because I'm obtuse that way. Also, I realized I completely miscited the image source, though -- I'll email the proper creators from Ex Astris Scientia for permission to keep it up. -- Sci 16:45 31 DEC 2005 UTC
The co-creator of the image from EAS has been emailed asking for permission; Bernd, the owner of EAS, says in his FAQ at http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/faq.htm#4 that anyone has automatic permission to reproduce his images so long as EAS is cited as the source with a link and doesn't reproduce the image in its entirety, and the image page's source citation (with link) has been corrected to accomodate this. -- Sci 16:57 31 DEC 2005 UTC
The co-creator of the image, "Reverend," has given permission for the image to stay up. -- Sci 09:11 2 JAN 2006 UTC