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Various images without proper copyright disclaimer

All five images below are not from aired episodes or movies, and as such should not be used under "fair use" conditions. I doubt that the Fact Files, ST:The Magazine or "Art of Star Trek" gave "explicit permission" to use these images, as the used {{imagecopyright}} template implies. All these might also be open for discussion on the copyright infringement page instead. -- Cid Highwind 17:28, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Image:Equinox MSD.jpg (17:28, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • This image is a print of artwork seen onscreen -- therefore i vote to keep it, with the "imageparamount" tag (we've kept other such "fair use" prints before -- under the proviso it must've been seen onscreen). -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk

Image:Aeroshuttle-docked.jpg (17:28, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • if Fact Files image, no permission implied, delete or replace (see below though).
    • This is a screencap of a test footage that was never aired. If this is test footage that ends up (or has already ended up) on a DVD collection, we could probably classify it as "fair use" (like other DVD "Extra" screencaps -- otherwise it is a copyvio of the magazine that printed the pictures until the video itself is released in such a manner. I have no VOY DVDs so i'm not sure if it is actually a "released" video. -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk

Image:Aeroshuttle-launched.jpg (17:28, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • if Fact Files image, no permission implied, delete. (this could fall under copyvio, IMO) See above subsection for screencap opinion question, though. -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk

Image:Jeff-Allin.jpg (11:59, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • While a game screenshot might be a valid image (if attributed properly), the quality suggests we should delete or replace -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk
    • does anyone else have an opinion on the "fair use" of video game screenshots -- is it something MA should pursue? these actually seem to be "behind the scenes" video game screenshots -- are we going to be going this in depth into the theatrical video games and rides (like the Experience)? -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk
  • From what I can tell, this may have actually scanned from the play manual that came with the game. The poor quality is, in part, attributed to the fact the image was enlarged during the scan. --Alan del Beccio 14:22, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Image:Marnie-McPhail.jpg (11:59, 29 Dec 2005 (UTC))

  • While a game screenshot might be a valid image (if attributed properly), the quality suggests we should delete or replace See above for question on video game screenshots -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk
  • From what I can tell, this may have actually scanned from the play manual that came with the game. The poor quality is, in part, attributed to the fact the image was enlarged during the scan. --Alan del Beccio 14:22, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Image:AndorianEmblem.jpg 10:51, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Even if from the site of one of MA's co-founders, it still needs a proper copyright disclaimer, including permission, if it is original artwork. It also duplicates the existing image Image:andorianimerialpguard.JPG. Delete. -- Cid Highwind 10:51, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. Delete. The second one will work just fine, even if they are both only on one page (the same page). -Platypus Man | Talk 06:47, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC)
Keep. Obviously I'm biased, since I put the image up, but I'm of the opinion that the image is clearer than the screencap. I didn't think to contact the person who reproduced the image from its ENT appearances, because I'm obtuse that way. Also, I realized I completely miscited the image source, though -- I'll email the proper creators from Ex Astris Scientia for permission to keep it up. -- Sci 16:45 31 DEC 2005 UTC
The co-creator of the image from EAS has been emailed asking for permission; Bernd, the owner of EAS, says in his FAQ at http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/faq.htm#4 that anyone has automatic permission to reproduce his images so long as EAS is cited as the source with a link and doesn't reproduce the image in its entirety, and the image page's source citation (with link) has been corrected to accomodate this. -- Sci 16:57 31 DEC 2005 UTC
The co-creator of the image, "Reverend," has given permission for the image to stay up. -- Sci 09:11 2 JAN 2006 UTC
Comment' - It still is, nevertheless, a duplicate of an image or idea that is already as accurately expressed through the use of an actual screencap. --Alan del Beccio 21:07, 7 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:EarlyRomulanWarship.jpg

Image:EarlyRomulanWarship.jpg 
Image from the Star Trek Chronology. "Fair Use" probably doesn't apply, apparently no other permission. -- Cid Highwind 11:35, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 11:47, 5 Jan 2006 (UTC)
  • This is kind of amusing, seeing that Harry Doddema uploaded it and all.. ;)--Alan del Beccio 05:30, 6 Jan 2006 (UTC)
    • That's what I thought, but, well... ;) -- Cid Highwind 10:18, 6 Jan 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Wasn't this an early design for the Romulan Bird-of-Prey? That would make it a useful background image. Also, if the Chronology was able to use it, wouldn't that mean it is the property of Paramount and therefore falls under "Fair Use"? --From Andoria with Love 11:06, 7 Jan 2006 (UTC)


Image:Apollo-A7LB-spacesuit.jpg

Image:Apollo-A7LB-spacesuit.jpg
Not a Trek image, in use only on one talk page after content was removed from article. -- Cid Highwind 21:41, 12 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Defiant quarter.jpg

Image:Defiant quarter.jpg
Unsourced and appears to be a fan-created CGI image. Can be easily replaced with an official promo shot or screencap. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 16:16, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Defiant DS9.jpg

Image:Defiant quarter.jpg
As with two images mentioned above, comes from the Ships of the Line calendar and with no permission to use. Also can be replaced with a screencap if necessary. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 16:16, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

More unused images

Image:Ma'borJetrel.jpg

Image:Ma'borJetrel.jpg
Looks like a possible promotional still; already have a screencap at Ma'bor Jetrel. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete --Alan del Beccio 05:34, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
  • delete -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk 17:25, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not sure how someone uploaded an image without it being renamed "Ma\'boorJetrel.jpg" like we've seen before, but that might be why we ended up with a duplicate. --Vedek Dukat Talk | Duty Roster 17:44, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:Ricky_and_paris.jpg

Image:Ricky_and_paris.jpg
Already have an image of character at Ricky. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete --Alan del Beccio 05:34, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
  • keep or merge -- the image seems useful as a summary, and the other picture is very indistinct. -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk 17:25, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:Automated personnel unit surgery screen.jpg

Image:Automated personnel unit surgery screen.jpg
Doesn't particularly show anything interesting or relevant. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete --Alan del Beccio 05:34, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as it has a home on the episode page. --Vedek Dukat Talk | Duty Roster 17:44, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
    • However, there are already several similar images on that page... this one shows nothing new. I could understand if it showed something unique about the personnel unit's vision or its interior workings, but none of that can be seen in this image. -- SmokeDetector47( TALK ) 15:49, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:Rashella1.jpg

Image:Rashella1.jpg
Smaller version of Image:Rashella.jpg; don't know why it was created. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Zeon.jpg

Image:Zeon.jpg
Replaced by better image (see Zeon (planet). -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Sovereign class corridor.jpg

Image:Sovereign class corridor.jpg
Needs a rename if kept. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Worf Frank Hollander showdown.jpg

Image:Worf Frank Hollander showdown.jpg
Doesn't particularly show anything interesting or relevant (IMO). -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Terok Nor Promenade.jpg

Image:Terok Nor Promenade.jpg
Not a very clear image. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Circle Branding.jpg

Image:Circle Branding.jpg
Unused, don't see a clear purpose. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Dukat kisses Meru.jpg

Image:Dukat kisses Meru.jpg
Duplicate. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Weapons scanner, Wrongs darker than death or night.jpg

Image:Weapons scanner, Wrongs darker than death or night.jpg
Don't know where this would go, if kept could probably be renamed. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Quark swears, Prophet Motive.jpg

Image:Quark swears, Prophet Motive.jpg
Not important enough to need an image (IMO). -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Quark prays, Invasive Procedures.jpg

Image:Quark prays, Invasive Procedures.jpg
Same as above. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Chakotay and BElanna in Maquis garb, Inside man.jpg

Image:Chakotay and BElanna in Maquis garb, Inside man.jpg
Same as above, should be renamed if kept (from "Pathfinder" not "Inside Man"). -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

B'Elanna Maquis images

Image:BElanna Maquis, Repression.jpg, Image:BElanna Maquis, Shattered 1.jpg, Image:BElanna Maquis, Shattered 2.jpg
Same as above, plus we already have her as a Maquis here: how many do we need? -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Kirk picard nexus cabin.jpg

Image:Kirk picard nexus cabin.jpg
Could be replaced by a better screenshot if absolutely necessary to have. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:EnterpriseNexus1.jpg

Image:EnterpriseNexus1.jpg
Bad filename, nothing that unique. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Kirk insults Spock 2267.jpg

Image:Kirk insults Spock 2267.jpg
-- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Kirk Jeffries tube.jpg

Image:Kirk Jeffries tube.jpg
Not very clear... -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Seska-1.jpg

Image:Seska-1.jpg
Replaced with better named file (see Seska). -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Mat365445.JPG

Image:Mat365445.JPG
Poorly named, no evident purpose. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Languages

Image:MalonScript.jpg, Image:Bolian written language, Who mourns for Morn.jpg, Image:Farian written language, Honor among thieves 2.jpg, Image:MalonScript2.jpg
All apparently replaced with better or different images. -- SmokeDetector47| TALK 18:53, 15 Jan 2006 (UTC)

More personal images

Image:ClowTOS.jpg and Image:ClowTNGmov.jpg - same ol' story. Maybe we should change our policy, I don't think one or two images per person would be that harmful. --Vedek Dukat Talk | Duty Roster 04:36, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Image:Typhon8.jpg

  • I'm almost certain this wasn't made for the game - the quality looks too good for even the FMV sequences. It obviously wasn't made for the show, so I'm led to believe it's a fan creation, and since there's no details of this provided, I think we have to lose it. Shame, it's a nice pic of the class but with no details on the source... - Hayter 12:08, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Image talk:Typhon8.jpg --Alan del Beccio 05:34, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Sorry, what are you pointing out? The ship design is clearly from the game, but I don't believe the digital model used for the image is. As I said on the talk page last year, the quality looks far too good for a PSOne game mesh and I've not seen it in any promotional releases associated with the game. These are the sorts of graphics redered by the in-game engine, with the image near the foot of the screen being an example of an FMV sequence which again, apears to be of a lesser quality to the mesh shown here. - Hayter 13:38, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
      • I'm point out that this went through the process onces before and no consensus was ever reached. That's why it was kept. --Alan del Beccio 23:44, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:Sinatra.jpg

  • I am very much opposed to using "real world" images for use on a star trek related article. What makes this site unique is straightforward use of images that are derived solely from star trek sources...and not placing images mirroring those found on our wikipedia counterparts. --Alan del Beccio 06:25, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

CBS/Paramount/SFM Images

Uneeded image with no relation to Trek. - Adm. Enzo Aquarius 21:46, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Added 4 more images uploaded by same user with no relation to Trek. 2 of which are duplicates. - Adm. Enzo Aquarius 23:26, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete all except one of the Paramount Television logos, which could be used on the CBS Paramount Television page if it survives the VFD process. -- SmokeDetector47( TALK ) 23:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree with the SmokeDetector. Delete but keep one of the Paramount images. --From Andoria with Love 23:49, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
  • New Addition - Added unrelated-to-Trek SFM images. - Adm. Enzo Aquarius 17:15, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
    • + two more. Delete all of the SFM images; and I agree that we should keep at least one of the Paramount images. — THOR =/\= 17:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:Stadi 2371.PNG/Image:Cavit2371.PNG

For one, we already had Image:Stadi2371.jpg and Image:Cavit.jpg. Aside from that, they are both huge PNG files, the former of which is of poor image quality, and also appears to also be "doctored." I almost think the latter is "doctored" somehow too. --Alan del Beccio 18:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:First Stike Invasion.jpg

I spelled it wrong, and re-uploaded as Image:First Strike Invasion.jpg. My bad. Jaz 02:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

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