Surname and Ethnicity[]
"Boimler" sounds like the proper German pronunciation of "Bäumler", a family of Central European origin distributed around the U.S. Northeast and Midwest. The spelling could have easily transformed over 500+ years especially post WWIII. knoodelhed (talk) 11:12, August 26, 2020 (UTC)
- This really doesn't matter at all, unless it was a plot point or aside mentioned in an episode.--Alan (talk) 15:08, August 26, 2020 (UTC)
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Does this really need to be here, versus Brad Boimler, a la Tom Paris? --Alan (talk) 20:14, September 16, 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, it should be here. "Most complete" is before "commonly used" on purpose, and they did use Bradward for the whole episode in dialogue instead of as a one off joke in his file or something. If it was up to me, everyone would be at their full name, and those people that have a mental condition about using redirects could just learn to deal with it. - Archduk3 20:22, September 16, 2020 (UTC)
If that was spelled out a little better in that link, I'd move Paris right now. --Alan (talk) 20:29, September 16, 2020 (UTC)
- The second line is the bit that's important here: "An article's name should be as precise and simple as possible. In general, the name should be the most complete, commonly used name for the subject." The problem with Tom is he is pretty much never called by his full first name in dialogue, at least as far as I can remember, where we at least have several uses of Bradward already. Since we haven't been consistent at all with names for a number of reasons, I've been using the "was it used at least in dialogue once a season on average" rule, in that if there are at least seven instances of Thomas being used for Tom, and especially if one of them is by him, then it would be worth it to move the page. If not, "simple" is most likely "precise" enough to avoid having to have the argument, even if I would prefer the consistency. - Archduk3 20:55, September 16, 2020 (UTC)
'Precise' and 'simple' sometimes (a lot of the times) contradict each other, especially when you're not taking 'familiar' into consideration, but to answer your non-question regarding the more precise "Thomas Eugene Paris" usage: no, but yes-ish.
- (S1) When given his field commission by Janeway -- "Caretaker"
- (S1) When given his offial sentencing by Banean Doctor -- "Ex Post Facto'
- (S2) When Harry Kim asked the computer to access his service record -- "Non Sequitur"
- (S2) When he stated his own proposed epitaph -- "Threshold"
- (S2) 2x = Neelix' 'goodbye' broadcast and his 'he's a hero' broadcast -- "Investigations"
- (S5) 3x = Twice in his guilty verdict/demotion, once in a dream -- "30 Days"
- (S5) By Janeway during his Silver Blood marriage. -- "Course: Oblivion"
There are also roughly six other instances when he was just called "Thomas", but then there is about 4000 times (+/- 55) he was called the obviously more familiar or simplier "Tom"/"Tom Paris".--Alan (talk) 23:52, September 16, 2020 (UTC)
"Bill" is easier, 2. --Alan (talk) 04:13, September 17, 2020 (UTC)
- Based on good old Bill Riker and James T. Kirk, Tom should probably be at "Thomas E. Paris" based on his named being used "enough." - Archduk3 13:22, September 17, 2020 (UTC)
Human?[]
Do we know Boimler is Human for sure? The purple hair could be a dye job, but the live action version looks like he has nose/forehead ridges. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jackdavinci (talk • contribs).