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:''A scene in this episode has Picard explaining to Data that the android would be "stripped down to the wires" to learn why Data was apparently falsifying records, interfering with an investigation, and disobeying orders. This seems to be a contradiction of what was established in {{e|The Measure Of A Man}}, in which it was ruled that Data was not the property of [[Starfleet]].''
 
:''A scene in this episode has Picard explaining to Data that the android would be "stripped down to the wires" to learn why Data was apparently falsifying records, interfering with an investigation, and disobeying orders. This seems to be a contradiction of what was established in {{e|The Measure Of A Man}}, in which it was ruled that Data was not the property of [[Starfleet]].''
 
I wanted to put it on here as a followup so that people know what was removed, and with the theory that the anon might return and put a quick explanation for such a removal as is the MA policy. -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 13:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 
I wanted to put it on here as a followup so that people know what was removed, and with the theory that the anon might return and put a quick explanation for such a removal as is the MA policy. -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 13:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
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"Don't Gimme That Star Trek Crap", Lister in DNA

This episode is a blatant rip-off of the 'Red Dwarf' episode "Thanks for the Memory." TNG lifted ideas from 'Red Dwarf' a few times, but this one was an entire plotline. - Kurt of North Bend

I would agree this episode's storyline is a riff on the same ideas as "Thanks For The Memory", but the way it is noted in Background Information in the Article seems as if Red Dwarf 'unintentionally' copied TNG when actually Red Dwarf got there first - Igotbit
Yes, I believe there was mention about this on a Red Dwarf writer's interview. I have attempted to correct the details:
The 1989 'Red Dwarf' episode "Thanks for the Memory" had a plot very similar to TNG 1991 "Clues". In each episode, the crews of both ships discover that their memories have been erased, and inexplicable injuries appeared. Both crews strive to determine the cause of this, only to discover they were better off not knowing. -Drogo
I would also add that there are SIGNIFICANT differences in the stories. One need only have actually watched both. I have, as you can see from my name I am a Red Dwarf fan. The only similarities are the ones said above. The differences are many. I don't remember memories of an old girlfriend being given to a hologram, or anyone for that matter, in the Star Trek episode. I don't remember any member of the Red Dwarf crew actually knowing what happened, and doing what they could to cover things up. I don't remember there being an alien force in the Red Dwarf episode that was the reason behind all of this, or the one who performed the memory wipe. I could go on and on. This is not a blatant rip off, just two stories with some similarities. --OuroborosCobra talk 05:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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A scene in this episode has Picard explaining to Data that the android would be "stripped down to the wires" to learn why Data was apparently falsifying records, interfering with an investigation, and disobeying orders. This seems to be a contradiction of what was established in "The Measure Of A Man", in which it was ruled that Data was not the property of Starfleet.

I wanted to put it on here as a followup so that people know what was removed, and with the theory that the anon might return and put a quick explanation for such a removal as is the MA policy. -- Sulfur 13:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

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