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I don't suppose it is possible that the [[Jody Clement]] redlinked here is the same person as the [[Jody Lynn Clement]] redlinked at [[DIS Season 1]]? Both are art directors. -- [[User:Capricorn|Capricorn]] ([[User talk:Capricorn|talk]]) 21:51, April 28, 2019 (UTC) |
I don't suppose it is possible that the [[Jody Clement]] redlinked here is the same person as the [[Jody Lynn Clement]] redlinked at [[DIS Season 1]]? Both are art directors. -- [[User:Capricorn|Capricorn]] ([[User talk:Capricorn|talk]]) 21:51, April 28, 2019 (UTC) |
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+ | {{user|Sennim}} recently added a bunch of citations to the part of the “Reception” section which talks about the Star Trek fandom being split. I don’t think anyone disputes that fandom is split. I think that the assertion that needed a citation was that the divide is primarily along generational lines, with Boomers and Generation X on one side and Millennials and Generation Z on the other. I just checked all six of the references, and although one talks in general terms about conflict when something is reinvented for a new generation, none of them say that Discovery fans tend to be Millennials or Gen Z or that Discovery foes tend to be Boomers or Gen X. A couple of them suggest that the split is along ''political'' lines, with those who consider racial and sexual diversity a good thing in its own right supporting Discovery, and Discovery opponents being more likely to complain about "social justice warriors." But that political division is not a generational one. |
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+ | With that in mind, I’ll try to edit the section to reflect what the sources actually say. If there is a source that talks about the split in fandom in these generational terms, the business about Boomers vs. Millennials can be restored. —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] ([[User talk:Josiah Rowe|talk]]) 20:50, November 27, 2019 (UTC) |
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Premature?
Isn't the table on this page a bit premature? We don't know how many episodes there will be in Season 2, or when they will air — or really, anything about the second season except that it will exist. What's the point of having a table with no useful information in it? —Josiah Rowe (talk) 03:56, October 29, 2017 (UTC)
- I have to agree. We don't know anything about the makeup of the second season; I don't even think TPTB know yet. 31dot (talk) 12:43, October 29, 2017 (UTC)
- I kind of agree, too... even though I created the table. ;) I created it to eliminate the red link on the season 2 page (which I *didn't* create), and it's basically just a copy of the season 1 template with the same number of cells. Feel free to delete the whole mess, or put some sort of disclaimer on the page, or whatever. -- Renegade54 (talk) 01:51, October 30, 2017 (UTC)
- "Co-creator Alex Kurtzman has explained that season two won't land until 2019 at the earliest. "Breaking story is, in some ways, the easier and faster thing; it's the ability to execute on it that's much harder. We want to take the right amount of time and don't want to rush," he outlined. [1] ( a February press release) -- user:captainmike11:36, April 9, 2018 (UTC)
Short Treks
Should we consider the Short Treks mini-episodes part of tne second season, or just something in between(likely with its own page) 31dot (talk) 01:33, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
- It currently has its own page, but I'm thinking that as things come out, it might become clearer if it is part of the season or something separate. -- sulfur (talk) 01:38, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
Clements
I don't suppose it is possible that the Jody Clement redlinked here is the same person as the Jody Lynn Clement redlinked at DIS Season 1? Both are art directors. -- Capricorn (talk) 21:51, April 28, 2019 (UTC)
Generationally divided fandom?
Template:User recently added a bunch of citations to the part of the “Reception” section which talks about the Star Trek fandom being split. I don’t think anyone disputes that fandom is split. I think that the assertion that needed a citation was that the divide is primarily along generational lines, with Boomers and Generation X on one side and Millennials and Generation Z on the other. I just checked all six of the references, and although one talks in general terms about conflict when something is reinvented for a new generation, none of them say that Discovery fans tend to be Millennials or Gen Z or that Discovery foes tend to be Boomers or Gen X. A couple of them suggest that the split is along political lines, with those who consider racial and sexual diversity a good thing in its own right supporting Discovery, and Discovery opponents being more likely to complain about "social justice warriors." But that political division is not a generational one.
With that in mind, I’ll try to edit the section to reflect what the sources actually say. If there is a source that talks about the split in fandom in these generational terms, the business about Boomers vs. Millennials can be restored. —Josiah Rowe (talk) 20:50, November 27, 2019 (UTC)