Talk:DIS Season 2

Premature?

Isn't the table on this page a bit premature? We don't know how many episodes there will be in Season 2, or when they will air — or really, anything about the second season except that it will exist. What's the point of having a table with no useful information in it? —Josiah Rowe (talk) 03:56, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

I have to agree. We don't know anything about the makeup of the second season; I don't even think TPTB know yet. 31dot (talk) 12:43, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

I kind of agree, too... even though I created the table. ;) I created it to eliminate the red link on the season 2 page (which I *didn't* create), and it's basically just a copy of the season 1 template with the same number of cells. Feel free to delete the whole mess, or put some sort of disclaimer on the page, or whatever. -- Renegade54 (talk) 01:51, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

"Co-creator Alex Kurtzman has explained that season two won't land until 2019 at the earliest. "Breaking story is, in some ways, the easier and faster thing; it's the ability to execute on it that's much harder. We want to take the right amount of time and don't want to rush," he outlined. [1] ( a February press release) -- user:captainmike11:36, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

Short Treks

Should we consider the Short Treks mini-episodes part of tne second season, or just something in between(likely with its own page) 31dot (talk) 01:33, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

It currently has its own page, but I'm thinking that as things come out, it might become clearer if it is part of the season or something separate. -- sulfur (talk) 01:38, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

Clements

I don't suppose it is possible that the Jody Clement redlinked here is the same person as the Jody Lynn Clement redlinked at DIS Season 1? Both are art directors. -- Capricorn (talk) 21:51, April 28, 2019 (UTC)

Generationally divided fandom?

Sennim recently added a bunch of citations to the part of the “Reception” section which talks about the Star Trek fandom being split. I don’t think anyone disputes that fandom is split. I think that the assertion that needed a citation was that the divide is primarily along generational lines, with Boomers and Generation X on one side and Millennials and Generation Z on the other. I just checked all six of the references, and although one talks in general terms about conflict when something is reinvented for a new generation, none of them say that Discovery fans tend to be Millennials or Gen Z or that Discovery foes tend to be Boomers or Gen X. A couple of them suggest that the split is along political lines, with those who consider racial and sexual diversity a good thing in its own right supporting Discovery, and Discovery opponents being more likely to complain about "social justice warriors." But that political division is not a generational one.

With that in mind, I’ll try to edit the section to reflect what the sources actually say. If there is a source that talks about the split in fandom in these generational terms, the business about Boomers vs. Millennials can be restored. —Josiah Rowe (talk) 20:50, November 27, 2019 (UTC)

I had added an {{incite}} tag specifically for that generational assertion. Sennim then added a bunch of citations and removed the incite tag. From what you're saying, those citations were inadequate to support that assertion. If we haven't any source(s) to support that, we should reword or remove it. -- Renegade54 (talk) 20:58, November 27, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, those citations all talk about the divided fan response to Discovery, but none of them really put it in those generational terms. I’ve tried to rewrite the section to reflect what they actually do say (while preserving our neutral POV as much as possible). —Josiah Rowe (talk) 21:03, November 27, 2019 (UTC)