Talk:Douwd

The fisrt paragraph needs a lot of work. It seems like it was written by someone new to memory-alpha (not that thats a bad thing, it just needs a little work). – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jaz (talk • contribs).

Frankly I'm surprised there's as much detail as there is. -LupusCCCLIX 08:17, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

"true" form

I find it unlikely for glowing humanonid shape to be a true from of Douwd. I'd personally bet an effect of discarding material form. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.29.171.91.

Question: Is this another name of the Q perhaps? Powers seem remarkably similiar. He could have used a different name for his race to distance himself form the continuum for some reason? Any ideas?– The preceding unsigned comment was added by Prince Inari (talk • contribs).

It would be speculation to state that these beings are Q, no matter how similar they are, as it was not stated in canon that they were the same.--31dot 20:45, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Additionally, Q doesn't seem to have any problems manipulating either time (as evidenced in the STTNG finale) or life/death (as evidenced in the episode where he tries to recruit Riker - where both Worf and Wesley are killed onscreen). Kevin (the douwd) cannot truly resurrect his wife, only make a facsimile of her. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.43.113.88.

Corporeality

I have noticed that several editors on this wiki have made the assumption that they are non corporeal, despite the fact that this is never stated. They could easily be translucent powerful corproreal beings. So I removed the category “Non-corporeals” from the page as it was pure speculation, but this edit was undone twice. We should not label a species as non corporeal unless it is explicitly stated as such(ex: Organians, non corporeal Koinonians).--Anonymous 1029384756 (talk) 16:04, May 25, 2020 (UTC)

Information doesn't need to be spoonfed to us to make it true. Using your own argument, you are speculating that the Koinonians are non-corporeal because they were never stated to be non-corporeal... In fact, only 6 species have ever been specifically stated as being in-/non-corporeal.

In fact, even one reference to the term made it pretty clear the definition isn't as black and white as you are trying to make it: Question: "Was it non-corporeal?" Answer: "In a manner of speaking..." --Alan (talk) 21:27, May 25, 2020 (UTC)

I think I confused you. I think that assumption should not be made. The non corporeal Koinonians were stated to be as such. The Douwd were not. SO the Douwd should not be categorized as non-corporeal as that would be speculation.--Anonymous 1029384756 (talk) 11:36, May 26, 2020 (UTC)

I'm not confused about anything, I know exactly what I said, and I am TELLING YOU that you are clearly making the same assumption about the Koinonians as this article is making about the Douwd. The Koinonians WERE NEVER STATED to be non-corporeal. --Alan (talk) 12:35, May 26, 2020 (UTC)

I believe I was mistaken about the Koinonians. So then we should remove both species from the non corporeals category.--Anonymous 1029384756 (talk) 15:46, May 26, 2020 (UTC)

Then we go back to my original comment: information doesn't need to be spoonfed to us to make it true. Not every starship was identified by class or species that was humanoid was said to be a humanoid, but we can use common sense to figure out what it and what isn't. --Alan (talk) 15:55, May 26, 2020 (UTC)