Talk: Federation Headquarters

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pna-inaccurate[]

Federation Headquarters was specifically identified as a building (which is where rooms are typically found) in "Homefront": "I want these units installed in every room at Starfleet and Federation Headquarters, then start working on the orbital stations."

Likewise, the script for Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home specifically identified Kirk's trial room, moreless confirming what we already knew, being located in Federation Headquarters. So if this has changed from a building to a location, separate from what it was, there needs to be some hard evidence to explain why, because these half-assed adding reference subsections or citations to articles without actually adding content associated with said references needs to stop. –Gvsualan (talk) 16:53, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

[edit conflict] - First, when was it stated that Federation Headquarters is only San Francisco if it isn't just the specific building? Second, why are we saying every appearance of the city is also an appearance of Headquarters? Did we really see Headquarters in "Children of Mars"? Third, when was it stated that moving Federation Headquarters off of Earth is why Earth stop being a member? It seem to me a lot of assumptions are being made on what is vague dialog at best. - Archduk 3 16:57, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

I made some changes to actually reflect the episode. I personally think every thing underneath it should be discarded...right? I mean this is pretty much all we know right? -- Noah Tall (talk) 16:55, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Merge with Starfleet Headquarters?[]

In both DS9: "Homefront" and DIS: "Die Trying", this site (on Earth in the first instance, and in space in the second) is referred to as a joint Starfleet-Federation HQ. So, I propose that we likewise represent the place in the same way. –Defiant (talk) 17:00, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I like where you're coming from -- but perhaps we should have an "Earth" Federation/Starfleet HQ and a "space" Federation/Starfleet HQ? -- Sulfur (talk) 17:05, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I think this should be it's own page, for the space station. But all of that "history" stuff and underneath it should be removed.Noah Tall (talk) 17:06, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm of the opinion that Federation and Starfleet HQ are different things except for post Burn station, where presumably they are at least different rooms, and that these pages should be pointing to individual pages/sections for those locations/structures. - Archduk 3 15:24, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Okay. Let's be really strict about things in that way, then! –Defiant (talk) 18:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

It's clear to me that the two Federation HQs need to be differentiated, much as you suggest, Sulfur. Would location really be the best way to do this, rather than time factor? I'm thinking of the precedent we have in Founders' homeworld (2371) and Founders' homeworld (2372). Perhaps we could have Federation Headquarters (23rd century) and Federation Headquarters (32nd century). –Defiant (talk) 12:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Any decision on this? Also, since the word "headquarters" can be singular or plural, the phrase "Starfleet and Federation Headquarters" in "Homefront" could mean "Starfleet Headquarters and Federation Headquarters", rather than that they're the same building. -- UncertainError (talk) 10:19, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Article split[]

Now that we have a name/registry for the 32nd century vessel, that part of the article should be split off and take the infobox with it so it doesn't conflate the 23rd and 24th century versions. -- UncertainError (talk) 02:42, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

I believe your suggestion was superseded by the independent and haphazard creation of USS Federation. –Gvsualan (talk) 11:31, 9 September 2022 (UTC)