Talk: Helmsman

Pilot redirect

I just got to this article through a link to pilot. I think there should be an article called 'pilot'. I can think of one example off the top of my head - Captain John Christopher from TOS: "Tomorrow is Yesterday". He would be classified as a pilot as opposed to a helmsman, don't you think? -- TrekFan ^Talk 17:07, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

He would, but what he was doing also isn't comparable to a helmsman. A pilot of a fighter jet is not the same asa helmsman. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 17:22, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

That's my point. Shouldn't there be an article entitled Pilot? If you click that link (<<<) it takes you to this article. Get what I mean? -- TrekFan ^Talk 20:49, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, misunderstood, thought you were proposing such a redirect. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 20:53, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

So what do you think? -- TrekFan ^Talk 21:41, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I Agree, the redirect in this case is not appropiate, the terms do not mean the same thing, at least in some aspects. While certainly, there have been times when someone said "We need a pilot" as mentioned above, we have seen Pilots in the meaning we use in reality. --Terran Officer 04:25, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

There is in fact an article called "Fighter pilot". I am going to change the redirect, "pilot" so that it links to that page instead. -- TrekFan ^Talk 00:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Removed

I've removed the following chunk of text:

One possible explanation as to why the helm and navigation stations were separate in the 23rd century but not before is that the combination of flight control, weapons control, and navigation would have been too much for one officer to handle. For this reason, navigation would be assigned to a separate officer, and the stations became combined again later after the decision was made to once again make weapons control a separate entity.

It should also be noted that the USS Enterprise-D and USS Enterprise-E did not have a permanent helmsman (or a senior helm officer), as this position was regularly shifted among several crew members including those in the senior staff.

Most command division officers (captains and commanders/executive officers) in Starfleet have held the position of helmsman at least once in their careers. Examples of this are Jonathan Archer, Hikaru Sulu, Jean-Luc Picard, William T. Riker, Worf, and Chakotay.

1) is speculation 2) is not entirely true 3) this is an observation, not a requirement, it should simply be noted in the list of helmsmen. --Alan (talk) 14:34, February 20, 2019 (UTC)