Republic of Ireland
Did "The High Ground" specifically call it "The Republic of Ireland", cause if not, this should be merged with "Ireland". - AJHalliwell 02:43, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)
- No, it didn't, I support merging.Gul Reid 18:41, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)
- Merge --Adm Boltz =/\= 19:06, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Amanda and Spock Irish?
Can someone explain what Amanda Grayson and Spock are listed as individuals with Irish origins? Tfleming 05:27, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- It shouldn't have been there. Must have been someone's idea of a joke. --Alan del Beccio 06:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Spock states in "The Naked Time" that he is of Irish descent. (I'm just assuming that it's from his mother's side.) 9er 23:47, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- When exactly does he state that? I's neither mentioned in the Star Trek Encyclopedia nor the Star Trek Concordance. It's also not in the episode transcript "voyager.cz/tos/epizody/07nakedtimetrans.htm" --Jörg 00:04, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Spock states in "The Naked Time" that he is of Irish descent. (I'm just assuming that it's from his mother's side.) 9er 23:47, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- Although I don't know the exact point, i think you might be mistaking a references to his ancestry of "humanity" not specifically Irish. (See: c. "Kathleen" singing scenes) - AJ Halliwell 00:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe, AJ. The way I remember it, Spock is telling Kirk that Riley told Spock that it's too bad Spock wasn't born an Irishman. As an aside, Spock tells Kirk that he in fact was. It's been at least 20 years- maybe I imagined it? 9er 01:31, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- The James Blish adaptation of "The Naked Time" has Spock taking offense to Kevin Riley's assertion that the science officer's "problem" was that he wasn't born an Irishman. Spock was recounting Riley's symptoms to Kirk when he said parenthetically, "In fact, I am." As filmed, Riley ascribed this character flaw to Joe Tormolen. Whether this information was Blish's invention or contained in an early draft of the script is unknown to me. --GNDN 20:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Northern Ireland
Neither Northern Ireland, Belfast nor Ulster have been referenced. If anybody can't find any direct references, this will have to go. --Jörg 15:27, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- vfd discussion
- Non-canon; information never mentioned in Trek. --From Andoria with Love 22:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- KEEP Irish Reunification WAS mentioned in Trek, and Northern Ireland would naturally be one of the parties thereunto.Capt Christopher Donovan 22:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, but where was Northern Ireland mentioned? ;) --From Andoria with Love 22:43, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- Delete "Northern Ireland" was not mentioned, all information pertaining to the reunification of 2024 is already on the Ireland page. --Jörg 22:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: We include names of Presidents when they are only pictured because it was obvious that it was them. I think this might also be a a similar case. We know there was a re-unification of Ireland, and Northern Ireland would seem to be the obvious party. --OuroborosCobra talk 01:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Delete "Northern Ireland" was not mentioned, all information pertaining to the reunification of 2024 is already on the Ireland page. --Jörg 22:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, but where was Northern Ireland seen or mentioned? ;) (Bush, Reagan, etc. were seen and/or mentioned while they were presidents, therefore they are labeled as presidents.) --From Andoria with Love 02:06, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- When was Reagan mentioned mentioned when he was President? He seems to have only been seen in "Storm Front, Part II", which was made a great many years after he was President. --OuroborosCobra talk 13:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see the problem here. Ronald Reagan was seen in an episode, there is visual evidence for his existence/relevance in the Star Trek universe. Northern Ireland on the other hand was neither seen nor heard of, we only hear Ireland and Irish from time to time, not Northern Ireland. "Irish Unification of 2024" could mean anything (check the talk page for the exact dialogue). Maybe in the Star Trek universe, Western Ireland split off from Ireland right after the Eugenics Wars and unified with Northern Ireland in 2024? --Jörg 14:03, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- To Cobra: I meant that those images seen were of those people while they were serving as presidents. --From Andoria with Love 23:09, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect Northern Ireland to whatever article exists about that situation (probably Ireland)? -- Cid Highwind 10:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- For what purpose, though? Northern Ireland was never referenced on-screen, it is merely assumed that it was a major player in Ireland's unification. And neither the Ireland article or the Irish unification article make reference to Northern Ireland, so I'm not sure why this should redirect to either one of those pages. --From Andoria with Love 04:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- To help searches for that term, and to avoid having a new article with this title the next time someone searches and doesn't find anything. :) -- Cid Highwind 09:45, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, bah. Why do things always have to be so logical with you? :P --From Andoria with Love 09:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- Merged and redirected. Blah. --From Andoria with Love 07:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Ireland refers to BOTH parts of the island
This article suggests that "Ireland" is merely the name of the Republic of Ireland, when Northern Ireland is part of Ireland as well. I'm well aware that it is used as short hand for the state, but this is incorrect usage.-RayBell (talk) 14:20, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
- You're forgetting we look at things from a canon point of view here at Memory Alpha, that is what was seen or heard on-screen in an episode or movie. Besides, who's to say that Northern Ireland and the Republic hadn't merged by the 24th century? It's possible. --| TrekFan Open a channel 14:53, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
- Northern Ireland and Ireland did merge in the Trek timeline, see Irish Unification of 2024. 31dot (talk) 15:07, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
- I completely forgot about that! Thanks, 31dot. Point proven! --| TrekFan Open a channel 16:02, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
PNA-incomplete
these should be integrated into the article