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== LCARS in the 23rd century and early 24th century ==
 
== LCARS in the 23rd century and early 24th century ==
   
Did the LCARS interface (or at least an early version of it) exist in the late 23rd/early 24th century? I've noticed that ships of that era (e.g. ''Enterprise''s A-C, ''Stargazer'', ''Excelsior'', etc.) all have a common interface that were designed by [[Mike Okuda]] and somewhat resemble the LCARS system of the mid/late 24th century. I bring this up because the LCARS system was mentioned in the [[Ambassador class]] article and had a reference to "[[Yesterday's Enterprise]]".
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Did the LCARS interface (or at least an early version of it) exist in the late 23rd/early 24th century? I've noticed that ships of that era (e.g. ''Enterprise''s A-C, ''Stargazer'', ''Excelsior'', etc.) all have a common interface that were designed by [[Mike Okuda]] and somewhat resemble the LCARS system of the mid/late 24th century. I bring this up because the LCARS system was mentioned in the [[Ambassador class]] article and had a reference to {{e|Yesterday's Enterprise}}.
 
--[[User:71.131.41.246|71.131.41.246]] 09:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 
--[[User:71.131.41.246|71.131.41.246]] 09:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 
:Indeed there was, but not "LCARS" as we would think of it. I've seen it classified under "Pre-LCARS".<br />
 
:Indeed there was, but not "LCARS" as we would think of it. I've seen it classified under "Pre-LCARS".<br />

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Let's not forget that the interface seen in In a Mirror Darkly part 2 looks very much like LCARS, only black on blue instead of mostly orange on black? -- your friendly neighborhood -- Kawa

The blue border looks like a more detailed version of the regular "glowing blue matte" that surrounded TOS LCARS displays -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk 17:51, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Correct pronunciation?

How do you pronounce this term? Is it pronounced as an acronym i.e. "L-Cars" or just as an abbreviation i.e. L-C-A-R-S?

I'm curious because of the pictures that have "a" in front of "LCARS" in the caption but if it is pronounced as an acronym, it should be "an" instead of "a".--Scimitar 21:32, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Interesting question -- this term is readable onscreen on innumerable occasions but I can't remember the last time anyone mentioned it aloud (in canon)
For the record, i say "L-Cars" -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk 01:37, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I say "L-Cars" tool; I'm pretty sure the Computer (Majel Roddenberry) said it once. - AJHalliwell 01:53, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I'm relatively sure it's "L" (the way the letter is pronounced) followed by "Cars" (as in the things you drive). So, repeat after me: L-CARS. :D --From Andoria with Love 10:23, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I'd love to know when it was said like that on screen! -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk 17:51, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to know, too. The only time I can think of it being referenced like that was for the TNG and DS9 Companions on CD-ROM... or was it the Encyclopedia CD-ROM? Eh, I know it was one of those; whichever one started out with the computer saying "Welcome to LCARS menu system" or something like that. While I know they're not canon, they were made by the production staff of the show, so I'd imagine they'd know how to pronounce it. ;) --From Andoria with Love 00:49, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
What you are probably thinking of is Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force. The game opens up with an LCARS menu, that has Majel Roddenberry saying (As the Computer voice) 'Welcome to L-CARS Menu System'. The same relates to TCARS, where it is pronounced T-CARS. Enzo Aquarius 00:53, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
If your not talking about Elite Force, then I'd think your thinking of "Captain's Chair", I'm relativly sure they said it. But T-CARS was never said in Elite Force.
Back on my last computer I downloaded a bunch of Computer sayings to replace the standard computer sounds (Since then the website has shut down, I think it was like: "Star Trek in sound and vision" or something) and they all cited episodes. One of them read it I think. I'll keep looking though - AJHalliwell 00:55, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Ah, my apologies. When I mentioned TCARS, I wasn't refering to Elite Force (Especially since EF is in the 24th century). Unfortunately, Star Trek in Sound and Vision is down, however, http://www.lcarscom.net/lcars/ has a very nice LCARS intro which states L-CARS. Enzo Aquarius 01:01, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

LCARS in the 23rd century and early 24th century

Did the LCARS interface (or at least an early version of it) exist in the late 23rd/early 24th century? I've noticed that ships of that era (e.g. Enterprises A-C, Stargazer, Excelsior, etc.) all have a common interface that were designed by Mike Okuda and somewhat resemble the LCARS system of the mid/late 24th century. I bring this up because the LCARS system was mentioned in the Ambassador class article and had a reference to "Yesterday's Enterprise". --71.131.41.246 09:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Indeed there was, but not "LCARS" as we would think of it. I've seen it classified under "Pre-LCARS".
--FastLizard4 21:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Tactile interface

I was under the impression that the Tactile interface referenced was one designed by Tuvok to deal with his disability, and was not a standard installation. This would be supported by Paris' use of actual switched etc. in the delta flier, saying that he wanted tactile fedback, this would imply that normal LCARS did not give feedback (I can't remember the episode name). Has the tactile interface been mentioned on any other occasion? 65.75.110.90 16:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Firstly: no, it hasn't been used elsewhere (to the best of my knowledge). Based on "The Year of Hell", we know that the tactile interface is possible, albeit whether it is a standard function, you're right—we don't know. However, what Paris was talking about was a grip-in-your-hands-feel-the-resistance-of-the-ship tactile interface, like one would find in a jet fighter or a car today. What Tuvok has installed/adapted/enabled was effectively (IMHO) braille for LCARS. — THOR =/\= 02:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)