Talk:Majel Barrett Roddenberry

Computer appearances? Category?

I'm sure she was in more episodes as the computer than those listed, why bother putting a list in if it isnt complete -- unsigned

She should get the writers category as well, shouldnt she? -- When it rains... it pours 16:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

The list seems complete to me. Jaz ^{talk | novels} 01:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

it's not complete b/c she's in every episode of voyager as computer's voice -- unsigned

The computer voice wasn't in every episode of Voyager, was it? Tiberius 13:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so, but it must have been in more that are listed. I think the list of episodes is taken from the IMDb page on Majel Barrett, which is far from complete. It says Barrett provided the computer voice on TNG in only eight episodes, which seems far too low. Locarno 17:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Is it really needed to note every episode when the computer says, "Acknowledged" or some other one or two word phrase? i think it will be more appropriate to include the episodes where the computer voice is featured, such as "haunting of Deck Twelve" and then use "et al" for the other eps. Tiberius 08:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Why not include all of them? Sure it will be work, but it is part of being thorough (crap, I can't spell). --OuroborosCobra ^talk 16:26, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree, we should try and be Thoreau.. -- Captain M.K.B. 16:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• We should at least list her for all episodes in which she is credited for the role - a lot more than what we have at present. CNash 21:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be easier to list the episodes she did not have some part in? Editor3000 04:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Appearances section

We need to find a way to list those better, as its incredibly messy with episodes all over the place. We can't just divide them by series as she played Lwaxana in both TNG and DS9... any ideas? We also need to add all of the episodes she was the narrator for. -- Tough Little Ship 15:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I've tried to list her appearances. Perhaps this looks better, I know the roles are double and ... written, but I think a list divided by series looks better. Also a gallery of her non-voice work should be on her page. – Tom 05:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Place of birth

It says she was born in Cleveland, I believe it was Columbus OH ZellDenver 04:57, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

She was born in Cleveland according to StarTrek.com, Roddenberry.com, and The Associated Press (via nytimes.com). Therefore, I suggest changing it back to Cleveland. HLachman (talk) 19:07, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

Birthplace changed to Cleveland, due to reasons given in my earlier suggestion. -- HLachman (talk) 14:45, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

After writing the above, I found that there are varying accounts of Barrett's birthplace (reliable sources are divided over whether it's Cleveland or Columbus). This is noted in more detail on her Wikipedia page. -- HLachman (talk) 08:52, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

M'Ress

Is there a reason that M'Ress is not included as one of Majel Barrett's appearances? I know I tried to add that character in, but it was removed later.

I was just wondering if there was a reason for that, or if it was just a mistake. Thanks! Hypnometal (talk) 21:30, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

It was reverted by ThomasHL, so he might know why. 31dot (talk) 21:39, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

barrett

Where did the name barrett come from? Jarwulf (talk) 01:12, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Her parents? It's her maiden name, and was hyphenated to "Barrett-Roddenberry" when she and Gene married. -- sulfur (talk) 03:17, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

No, her maiden name was "Hudec." Apparently, "Barrett" was a stage name (see "blond wig," etc., in the article). -- HLachman (talk) 15:16, September 20, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the following:

• Because the network did not like her role in "The Cage", Barrett donned a blond wig for her role and went by the name "Majel Barrett" rather than "M. Leigh Hudec," as she had done for "The Menagerie."

I'm seeing two problems here: (a) by using the past perfect verb "had done", it seems to be saying that her role as Chapel in The Naked Time came after The Menagerie (and her credit there as Hudec), but in fact, The Naked Time had earlier production dates and broadcast dates than The Menagerie; (b) it seems to be saying that her use of the name Barrett originated with her casting as Chapel, whereas she had already been credited as Barrett in The Cage. My suggestion is to remove the implication that her use of the name Barrett originated from her being cast as Chapel. -- HLachman (talk) 18:17, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

I think you are confusing the two-part "The Menagerie" with "The Menagerie"-aka-"The Cage": the pilot that NBC was aware of, viewed, and otherwise would have recognized Barrett from... and did, just like they recognized her in "The Cage" from The Lieutenant.

She used the name Barret(t) <1959, nevertheless, I don't believe she was credited in "The Cage" at all, or if so, the pilot was always what the Hudec name has been conneeted with, so I'm not sure where your information of her being credited as Barrett in the pilot is coming from. –Gvsualan (talk) 22:56, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

No, I'm not confusing anything. Just as with nearly all references to those episode names here on Memory Alpha, I'm using "The Cage" to refer to episode 0x01, and "The Menagerie" to refer to episodes 1x15 and 1x16 (see episode titles and episode numbers as listed in TOS#Episode list). As to where I'm getting my information about the credits in "The Cage" (episode 0x01), one is the article The Cage (episode), and the other is various youtube captures of the end credits of "The Cage" (e.g., here and here). If you have a better source, please share. -- HLachman (talk) 02:21, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

The need for pomp and circumstance seems rather unnecessary. If she was never credited as Hudec, then that should be removed. With that done, then there is no concern about any implications given in a scenario that doesn't even exist to begin with. As in this case, with what remains with your points above, is the fact that Hudek was somehow part of the equation, and it was not...or at least that is the implication. –Gvsualan (talk) 02:59, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean about pomp and circumstance as I'm not seeing any. Bottom line, I suggested an improvement to the article, and I see that you implemented it... so, thanks. -- HLachman (talk) 03:29, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Appearances as Number One

As noted in the edit history of 12 June 2021, Barrett appeared as Number One four times. Is there some reason not to include this under "recurring appearances"? My suggestion is to include them. Also, the section "Recurring appearances" can be named "Appearances" for consistency with other articles. -- HLachman (talk) 18:22, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

The gallery shows all of her appearances and credits. As with the case of Chapel, there are far too many credits to fit it in the gallery text, hence the link to the section containing the full list. --Gvsualan (talk) 22:56, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

The "Recurring appearances" list currently has 36 items. Adding her 4 appearances as Number One would make it 40. Is there some reason why 36 is good and 40 is bad? If not, let's make it 40. -- HLachman (talk) 02:21, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

You've completely missed my point. –Gvsualan (talk) 02:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

The point here is that her appearances as Number One are already listed right above.

Her appearances as Chapel are too numerous to do so.

This is our style when an actor plays multiple roles. -- Sulfur (talk) 02:41, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

OK... just two questions, if I may: (a) Are there other articles where a "Recurring appearances" section leaves out some of the actor's recurring appearances? I get that additional roles are listed outside the section, but I'm looking at what's in the section, and this seems to be the only article where a section titled "Recurring appearances" doesn't include all of the recurring appearances (other than with a notation saying the list is incomplete). (b) In this article, why is it called "Recurring appearances" instead of just "Appearances"? -- HLachman (talk) 04:00, 13 June 2021 (UTC)