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What the Ascent?/Fantasy[]

Okay, I guess I'm the one who's going to have to start this off here... WTAF? He ascended? Was there any actual science involved in this story or has Star Trek officially crossed the line into fantasy?Madnana42 (talk) 07:52, August 27, 2020 (UTC)

I haven't seen Moist Vessel or any other LD episode, but considering that both the TOS pilot "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and TNG pilot "Encounter at Farpoint" have people with God powers, "Who Mourns for Adonais?" has the actual immortal Greek gods transcend into nothingness, and "The Magicks of Megas-Tu" has literal magic which was responsible for the Salem witch trials, I'd say fantasy has been a part of Star Trek for quite some time. -BradTheAmerican (talk) 01:05, August 28, 2020 (UTC)
The notion that it's possible for humanoids to transform into non-corporeal lifeforms is pretty common in Star Trek. In "Errand of Mercy" the Organians said that they "were humanoid like yourselves, but ... have developed beyond the need of physical bodies." The entire plot of "Transfigurations" was about the Zalkonians achieving this transformation. The Wisps in "The Crossing" also claimed that their "ancestors" had physical bodies. Q even suggested once or twice that Humans would eventually become like the Q.
The only thing that was new in this episode was seeing it happening to a Human. (Well, that and the koala.) —Josiah Rowe (talk) 03:29, August 29, 2020 (UTC)
Oh, and I should have mentioned that this sort of discussion is not what Memory Alpha talk pages are for. There are plenty of other places on the internet to quibble over this sort of thing. This is not supposed to be one of them. —Josiah Rowe (talk) 04:23, August 29, 2020 (UTC)

Was O'Connor's belief system named?[]

There seemed to be a number of crewpeople who shared it, or had an interest. knoodelhed (talk) 20:57, August 28, 2020 (UTC)

Nope. It seemed to be a mishmash of systems. -- Sulfur (talk) 21:14, August 28, 2020 (UTC)