Talk:Performers whose scenes were cut

Why this site

Ok, I've created this site, because I think all the performers who actually filmed scenes for a Star Trek production should be listed together. We also have a page for performers considered for Star Trek roles, but the different is, that these actors and actresses filmed scenes, which were cut from the aired versions.

I started this page when I got an e-mail answer from Carey Scott, who told me his Star Trek story.

I suggest, that all actors who were credited in the end credits of an episode or film should have their own article, because their name was listed on screen. All performers who received no credit but a proof exists for them, playing a role in Star Trek, should have a short article on this site. Also I created redirects for Carey Scott and Marilyn Rockafellow, their names are here on MA and if they were removed, a short time later another user will perhaps create an article for them. The redirects go to this page. The sources for the info about Tom Morga and Carey Scott is from them, via e-mail. I also suggest, that removed and uncredited performers should be mentioned in the background note of the episode/ film article and will work on this page later. There are many more.

Any suggestions? – Tom 04:26, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that a list of such individuals, such as this one, is enough. In my opinion performers should only have their own articles if they were seen or heard in canon in the finished episode. I believe as things stand now a cut scene is not canon for purposes of MA. Now, if an actor had a scene cut in one episode but did appear in others(such as Wil Wheaton whose lines were cut out of Nemesis) then that could be mentioned on their already existing page. I don't think we need seperate pages for people not actually seen in canon.--31dot 11:36, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

However, if they're listed on screen in credits, they should still get their own article. Whether hairdresser or actor. Otherwise, this article should suffice. -- Sulfur 12:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, 31dot, we have several articles for production staff members, who worked behind the scenes, were never shown or referred on screen, but are still a part of the Star Trek universe. And they should have their own article, of course. Its the same with some of these performers. They were payed for their work in Star Trek, but in some cases were removed. Please don't mix up the in-universe articles and real world articles. I don't want to create articles for the roles they played, I only want to mention the people who played these roles. And believe it or not, people will come to this wiki and search for an actor, for example Carey Scott, and cannot find him. Then they will create an article for him or discuss this again and again. It is a real world article like the one mentioned above, and you should notice, that in the article for the performers, who were approached for Star Trek roles, half of the people never made a screen test, casting call, or something like this. – Tom 13:41, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I think I did indeed get 'performers' confused with 'performance'. I'm not really sure why I did....but anyone credited should have an article. I will also say that I did not claim that people would not search for actor's names, and that certainly is a valid purpose for creating such articles.--31dot 23:31, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

John Carter of DS9

I don't know how we could confirm it, but I would say that the John Carter in question is this actor - [1] - DS9 Forever 22:34, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Kim Fitzgerald (actress)

Kim Fitzgerald

Yeah, so her pictures are up on the imdb, but I browsed the episode twice and couldn't find any characters that looked like her. Seeing that they credited her role, it would seem she had at least some sort of speaking role. So unless her role was cut or much less obvious than most credited roles. -- Alan 00:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

The page says that this Kim Fitzgerald shouldn't be confused with the production associate. Well, what if she is that Kim Fitzgerald? It certainly wouldn't be the first time that IMDb screwed things up like that. It's also possible that those images aren't Fitzgerald, after all. Anyway, I can only assume that she's the one who plays the unfortunate crewman who gets blown up in "Chosen Realm" for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. -- From Andoria with Love 10:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I found an image of her from the new Axanar fan film this morning. This may help in her identification in the episode. -- sulfur (talk) 15:38, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

The Kim Fitzgerald who worked as production associate on three Trek series is a completely different person, and is a black woman. I've updated her article. The Kim Fitzgerald who "appeared" on Enterprise and is now on Axanar is Kimberley Ann Fitzgerald, today known as Kim Fitzgerald Starzyk following her marriage. I've went through the complete episode "Chosen Realm" and identified a whole bunch of the background, featured, and stunt actors. But there is no Kim Fitzgerald in this episode. However she remained in the end credits. So I've moved her entry to this page. She was credited so 'not considered' and this seems to be the best place. And btw, I've tried to contact her and asked her about her Enterprise adventure. Tom (talk) 03:04, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

Split

This would apply to all "x performers whose scenes were cut".

Rather than lumping all these folks together in one page, we can list these individuals, individually, on their own pages and just categorize them accordingly. Quite frankly their contribution, or at least their time, earns them their own page just as much as it does for anyone else who contributed to the franchise in some capacity. If a guy who made the art for a single calendar page from umpteen years ago can have his own page, why can't a guy who was designated to appear on screen but was cut for whatever reason can't? Then the article titles would become categories (subcategorized to the parent series). –Gvsualan (talk) 15:37, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm fully in favour of this. Anything that gives people who contributed their appropriate due. -- Sulfur (talk) 15:58, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Makes sense, support. - AJHalliwell (talk) 16:12, 29 April 2021 (UTC)