Talk: Romulan Bird-of-Prey

Revision as of 17:32, 29 September 2005

I have an image of the studio model. Should I include it? Ottens 19:26, 2 Feb 2005 (CET)

There is no evidence the Enterprise was at warp during he actual fight with the Romulans. They only went to warp to get to the attacked outpost and then to outrun the plasma weapon. It seems more likely the Romulans received warp drive through the Klingon relationship in exchange for cloaking. Why else would they need Klingon vessels if not to support a nw tech they had not developed yet?--63.201.59.202 17:23, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If there is a question of whether the bird-of-prey had warp capability at the time of the episode - fine, but the Romulans definitely had warp capability as of ENT "United", etc to name one. -- Captain Mike K. Bartel^talk 18:04, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yes but enterprise is crap. Should we be considering something canon the purposefully seeks to disallign itself with previous series?

Yes. You are obviously not capable of considering this rationally -- we do consider Enterprise canon, especially in this case because it does not contradict TOS, simply that it clarifies something that TOS left unsaid. I don't see how Enterprise filling in the blanks where TOS left off to be "disaligning itself" -- Captain Mike K. Bartel^talk 23:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Its more like you like to just take what you are fed. Scotty said "simple impulse". Impulse power has ALWAYS refered to speed. Disregarding what he said is just throwing away the original writer's intentions. Sorry, I dont buy that "impulse power" is power that drives warp. Impulse is a drive powered by "fussion power". --Mark 2000 17:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You're incorrect. What Scotty says is "Pure impulse", and "impulse" can refer to a power source for a ship as well, as the USS Constellation had only its impulse engines in "Doomsday" and yet it was able to charge up shields and one phaser bank with that, along with rudimentary movement. There's nothing in canon that says that impulse power, which is presumably fusion-based, cannot power warp speeds as well. In fact, Cochrane's first test ship which reached Warp 1 probably did not have antimatter nor dilithium, rather its most likely power source was something nuclear. --Atrahasis 17:32, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Again, lack of rationality. Can you then explain why the Enterprise was chasing an impulse powered craft to the Neutral Zone at warp speed?? The B-o-P would have needed several years head start for the Enterprise to require the speeds it was pushing to catch it. --Gvsualan 22:11, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Actually, did you even see the episode? The romulan ship is NEVER chased. The enterprise only has to push its engines to get to the scene and to escape the plasma mortar. After that there is *no chase*. They mirror the romulan ship move for move, only losing it when it stops moving. At what point in the episode is there a chase? --Mark 2000 23:02, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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 :Yes. You are obviously not capable of considering this rationally -- we ''do'' consider Enterprise canon, especially in this case because it does not contradict TOS, simply that it ''clarifies'' something that ''TOS left unsaid.'' I don't see how Enterprise filling in the blanks where TOS left off to be "disaligning itself" --  [[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> 23:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 ::Its more like you like to just take what you are fed. Scotty said "simple impulse". Impulse power has ALWAYS refered to speed. Disregarding what he said is just throwing away the original writer's intentions. Sorry, I dont buy that "impulse power" is power that drives warp. Impulse is a drive powered by "fussion power". --[[User:Mark 2000|Mark 2000]] 17:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
+::: You're incorrect. What Scotty says is "Pure impulse", and "impulse" can refer to a power source for a ship as well, as the USS Constellation had only its impulse engines in "Doomsday" and yet it was able to charge up shields and one phaser bank with that, along with rudimentary movement. There's nothing in canon that says that impulse power, which is presumably fusion-based, cannot power warp speeds as well. In fact, Cochrane's first test ship which reached Warp 1 probably did not have antimatter nor dilithium, rather its most likely power source was something nuclear. --[[User:Atrahasis|Atrahasis]] 17:32, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
 :Again, lack of rationality. Can you then explain why the ''Enterprise'' was chasing an impulse powered craft to the Neutral Zone at warp speed?? The B-o-P would have needed several years head start for the ''Enterprise'' to require the speeds it was pushing to catch it. --[[User:Gvsualan|Gvsualan]] 22:11, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)