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Is it just me, or in DS9 are there a lot of episodes featuring the SFLOPR plot device? That is:

  • Shady
  • Figure
  • Looking
  • Over
  • Promenade
  • Railing

I noticed with interest the "O'Brien Must Suffer" meme on the page for 'Tribunal' - perhaps SFLOPR (or some better acronym...) could become one too? Now that I think of it, a good many DS9 episodes feature this device, especially in the pre-credits teaser. And it even crossed over into TNG 6x16 in 'Birthright, Part I'! – Worksong 08:38, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't recall a single DS9 episode where that didn't happen. But it wasn't really a plot device. More of a stylistic filming choice, if anything. The other thing is, the "O'Brien Must Suffer" thing has actually been brought up by the production crew in interviews, and even makes an appearance in the DS9 Companion book. The "SFLOPR"? No, that's just a style thing. -- Sulfur 09:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

The body Entek shows Kira

Anyone else think that might be the real Iliana? The Evelyonian 01:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)The_Evelyonian

Could be that, could be a hologram, could be a clone, could be a... --OuroborosCobra talk 02:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Could it be a Cardassian female who was made to look like Kira Nerys to trick her, to make her believe she was Iliana Ghemor and not Kira Nerys.--Typhuss999 (talk) 19:35, December 10, 2014 (UTC)

The Hara cat-shooting incident

They seemed to tie everything together pretty well by the end of the episode, but there's one last loose end - the story of how Kira shot a Hara cat when she was with the Bajoran resistance. Kira claims to have never told anyone, yet Entek knows of the incident. Obviously, he was lying about having implanted the memory, but how would he have known at all? 03:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)anon

This is the Obsidian Order we are talking about. They probably probed her mind when she was asleep or something. --OuroborosCobra talk 02:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


Someone may want to clean up those quotes... The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk).

Yeah, really. If no one else does, I will. IT IS GREEN 23:11, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I did it. IT IS GREEN 17:22, December 5, 2009 (UTC)


Where the stardate comes from? I don't remember any stardate from this episode.--Sid-Vicious (talk) 19:46, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

I'd need to look, but it could have come from an on-screen graphic, if it wasn't said in dialog. 31dot (talk) 22:16, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

I watched the episode tonight, no references to any stardate. Even in the script there aren't. The same applies for many episodes of the third season, with stardates taken I don't know where. Maybe there are other sources, so I didn't make any changes for now.--Sid-Vicious (talk) 23:33, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

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