S1 Shukar and S2 Andorian admiral

If Gorch is explicitly not the Tellarite Admiral from this episode, doesn't the same apply to Shukar? The character was also only credited as "Andorian Admiral"? Or given that it's the same actor, and unlike Gorch there weren't any differences in make-up, we assume it was Shukar until proved otherwise? JagoAndLitefoot (talk) 15:51, March 13, 2019 (UTC)

Well, yes and no. The case of the Tellarite Admiral was confirmed to be a different character by the actor, and also, looked very different than Gorch in appearance. Did Shukar and the second Andorian Admiral look alike? --Alan (talk) 16:11, March 13, 2019 (UTC)

There are a few differences in appearance (e.g. the hairline), but less pronounced than with Gorch. JagoAndLitefoot (talk) 19:06, March 13, 2019 (UTC)

Of course going from a long haired character to a bald one is about as big a visual change as possible, so you would expect a second analogous case to revert to the mean in terms of how much they've changed. -- Capricorn (talk) 07:05, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
Say what? --Alan (talk) 10:10, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, it's just a very fancy way of saying that I don't think Gilchrist's change in look being less extreme then Judge's make it less probable that he's also playing a different character much. I was in need of sleep when I wrote that. -- Capricorn (talk) 16:32, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
In a tweet from @harryjjudge, Gorch himself confirms that the current (Season 2) Tellarite and Andorian admirals are indeed new characters: "Yes, both are considered different characters rather than different expressions of Gorch and Shukar. Thanks, we loved being back again." Therin of Andor (talk) 23:47, March 14, 2019 (UTC)
That's dumb of them.--Alan (talk) 00:03, March 15, 2019 (UTC)

I guess they wanted to show more Andorian and Tellarite characters without spending money and time on making new prosthetics for new actors. JagoAndLitefoot (talk) 00:25, March 15, 2019 (UTC)

I dunno, they could have swapped actors/species.... recurring characters build a base... this is just dumb. --Alan (talk) 00:47, March 15, 2019 (UTC)

Well, now we know – probably because they want to keep Shukar and Gorch alive. JagoAndLitefoot (talk) 10:26, March 15, 2019 (UTC)

Great that this is resolved, but could that tweet perhaps be added as a reference? -- Capricorn (talk) 13:17, March 15, 2019 (UTC)

Dead or Alive

How do we know that the Andorian seen in "Project Daedalus" is Shukar? it could be the old andorian seen in the previous episode?Jkirk8907 (talk) 01:16, March 15, 2019 (UTC)

Who is saying otherwise. --Alan (talk) 01:41, March 15, 2019 (UTC)
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