the latest edits introduce a lot of speculation and even more blatantly wrong facts. I will be by around 9:30 EST to restore my stub version i originally wrote and expand from there.
- Go for it! I dunno where a lot of this stuff came from. (And don't forget to sign.) Steve 00:40, 6 Jun 2004 (CEST)
- Isn't most information about stardates speculative? I was thinking that
I've never thought much of Stardates in TOS. I think of them as almost irrelevant to figuring out dates. Yet I conceder how could one bring reason to Stardates. My current theory is that, not all TOS logs, were logged during the Episode. Some episodes like The Enemy Within Kirk actually refers to events in the past tense and facts that Kirk just did not have at that time. Like in The Man Trap "Unknown to us at this time, we were all seeing a different woman" or something to that effect.
I propose adding to the Stardate descriptions, "Some Stardates were logged after the Event, sometimes at the request of Starfleet, or to help fill details to other reports filed" also, "At times these Logs were done from a prospective of it being done during the event, despite being logged sometime after."
The best way for one to know, if a Log did occur during the Episode is if you see the persons mouth moving. I know this does not fix everything, but it is a Start. TOSrules 01:37, 21 Aug 2004 (CEST)
Stardates (moved from: Memory Alpha:Ten Forward
While reading the 30th Anniversary Special Collector's Edition Star Trek book, I noticed some information on the Stardates that is not included in Memory-Alpha's "Stardate" entry. It mentions that the the digit following the decimal indicates one-tenth of a 24-hour period, logic dictating that a single unit is equal to one earth-day. This seems somewhat incongruous with the fact that the 3 digits preceding the decimal from 000 to 999 reveal the progression of a single earth year (although the book indicates that those 3 digits progress unevenly). Could someone else amend the Memory-Alpha entry to account for this info, despite its incongruities, I don't trust that I could improve the entry myself.
I reverted the following rewrite as it is in the wrong POV and speculative. --From Andoria with Love 11:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- Information was removed by original author.
You can remove it from history also if you want. This site is obviously far too conformist and uninquisitive. You seriously believe the official theories are not speculative with respect to canon?
- Yes, we can be conformist in regards to our policies, but we are not uninquisitive. The problem with your additions is that it was an extensive amount of personal speculation which was added to the article as information which has been established in a Star Trek episode or movie. What is written here is the official explanation as given by Gene Roddenberry; any other explanation in regards to canon is irrelevent, although other possibilities may be explained briefly in the background section. Come to think of it, though, Gene's official explanation hasn't been established in any episode or movie either and should probably be moved to background, as well. Anyways, I hope this clarifies matters. --From Andoria with Love 11:43, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
one-tenth per day?
I seem to remember a TNG ep where someone (Riker and Crusher IIRC) are watching a security recording. They notice a date stamp that is one decimal place off from what it should be, and Crusher makes a comment of "One day Later?" Does anyone else remember this? Ssaint04 10:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- It sounds vaguely familiar, although if that was the way she explained it, I really would recommend noting it in the background and simply stating ambiguously in the main article that Crusher deduced whatever-it-was from the decimal places. As we've seen time and again, stardates have very complex methods of calculation, which are far beyond the grasp of weak-minded 21st century human beings. :P That or the writers have better things to keep track of. --Vedek Dukat Talk | Duty Roster 10:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)