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  • T: Under the Cloak of War
  • A: SNW
  • N: 2x08
  • P: 118
  • C: 891
  • D: 27
  • M: July
  • Y: 2023
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Star chart ref source[]

I'd like to know what crack team of NCIS analysts is using government technology to ready that teenie tiny starchart on screen, because that sure as hell isn't legible on any version of this episode I've seen. –Gvsualan (talk) 20:16, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

I did the references. The chart is based on charts seen earlier in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, Star Trek: Picard, and Star Trek: Discovery. There were two new additions added to the chart: the Prospero system and the Chantico Nebula.Memphis77 (talk) 20:33, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, it's not hugely legible on its own, but doable if you have previous charts for reference. Now, the names of M'Benga's family were much harder to decipher, but looking up lists of real-world Kenyan names helped narrow it down. JagoAndLitefoot (talk) 20:35, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Did M'Benga really murder diplomat and Chapel helped him cover it? Is this what Star Trek university has come to?[]

I honestly can't believe anymore how they can justify something like this like murdering people and cover it. This isn't anymore Star Trek I used to know. If there where any justice M'Benga and Chapel would been sent to Federation Court and would got life sentences, but I doubt that will happen. A lot of children watch this show and it suppose to show them example and for long time Star Trek series and Federation represented that, but no longer. Still cannot believe how low Star Trek has gone.

Also this wikia episode page didn't give realistic information what happened.

I am not sure if you had a different viewing perspective than I did, but I never seen him murder anyone. If anything it's left to the viewer but I have only watched it once. ‐Yaroze86 (talk) 22:00, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
This is not the place for this kind of discussion. Take it elsewhere. -- UncertainError (talk) 22:16, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
No, some of this deserves clarification. If the article reads in such a way that it's still not clear what happened, even with a lot of unspoken gestures like La'an's side eye look after her explanation, it seemed to coincide with the idea of a coverup of a situation that got out of hand. Unless we actually know if the Klingon had his hand on the knife at any point, which is perhaps what the fingerprint part of the scene attempted to rectify, ad there was no other reason his prints would have ever been on it, then there was no coverup. –Gvsualan (talk) 22:59, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
I don't see that we need to assume any more than what the episode gives us. The episode is deliberately ambiguous on what exactly happens between M'Benga and Dak'Rah. All we know is what M'Benga/Chapel reported, and what La'an concluded from her forensics, and we don't need to say any more than that. -- UncertainError (talk) 23:18, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
I never said assume, but there is certainly a lot of double speak, personal boss, and uncomfortable looks that needn't be so easily dismissed.–Gvsualan (talk) 23:39, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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