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| − | Should the information on The Comic be moved to [[Ronald D. Moore (comic)]] or [[Ronald Moore (comic)]]? We've been including all kinds of production in-jokes as if they were real people lately, so wouldn't it be logical to do that, with a redirect from [[The Comic]]?--[[User:Tim Thomason|Tim Thomason]] 14:00, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | As the Peddler was the only Minosian seen in Star Trek, perhaps this article should be renamed to Minosian Peddler. Calling this a list of unnamed Minosians is unneccesary, as a list should consist of more than one unnamed individual. [[User:31dot|31dot]] 11:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | :I agree - no need for a "list article", if the list only contains one element. Moving the article back to one of the titles it already had in the past sounds good. The guy is only called "THE PEDDLER" in the script, so [[Minosian peddler]] looks like the best choice. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 14:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Although he was only known as "Gentleman" in the script, his story is extremely (though not exactly) similar to Mr. Mortimer Tregennis from ''The Adventure of the Devil's Foot''. Should he be given his own page with that name, or should he remain here nameless because he was not named in the script, since the stories are not exactly the same? [[User:Lee Wilson|Lee Wilson]] 14:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::I'm not convinced, he says post-move. He's still unnamed. If we start this, it opens the door to "name" all of the dudes on unnamed pages. -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 03:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Talaxian Women== |
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| − | According to this article the first Talaxian female seen on Voyager is the masseuse in the Paxau resort. This is wrong. I don't know if she was the first but wasn't a Talaxian dancer seen in the Kazon bar in [[Alliances]] |
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| + | :Don't we have redirects for some of those "names" anyway? And isn't the reason that we do have "unnamed lists" more the fact that we want to avoid several stub articles than the fact that we don't want the names? In any case, a list containing one element is a little strange to look at... ;) -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 08:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | *I uploaded a pic of the female dancer on [[Sobras]] seen in [[Alliances]] [[Unnamed humanoids (24th century)|here]]. Though, she does look a little Talaxian, she has regular human ears, no horizontal folds on her foreskin, no Talaxian exebrows and her hairline is completely different in comparisons to [[Alixia]] (first appearance: [[VOY Season 4]]) or [[Dexa]] ([[VOY Season 7]]). |
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| − | :Apart from that, we only ever saw some other female Talaxians in [[Homestead]], so I think the masseuse from [[Warlord]] ([[VOY Season 3]]) is the first female Talaxian to be seen.--[[User:Jörg|Jörg]] 13:51, 1 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | :I think this is a unique circumstance, but leaving that aside, my concern was more due to the fact that it was referred to as a 'list' and a list should have more than one thing(as Cid said). It could be called "Unnamed Minosian" instead, but if you're going to do that, why not just call him what he is? [[User:31dot|31dot]] 20:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | *Shouldn't the comic be moved to something like [[Ronald D. Moore (comic)]]? As he is listed here as having been given a name. [[User:Jaf|Jaf]] 01:21, 5 March 2006 (UTC)Jaf |
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| − | :* I'd suggest merging the info (not a real merge probably) with the [[Ronald D. Moore (comedian)]] page, as opposed to what I said above. That is if the page is correct and the comic was okudagrammed as "Ronald D. Moore."--[[User:Tim Thomason|Tim Thomason]] 01:29, 5 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | :::And what he is... is an unnamed [[hologram]]. ;) --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 20:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Please--take another look. The Comic's Okudagram menu entry read <Ronald *B.* Moore>, for the VFX coordinator (later supervisor) paired with Dan Curry ... "FX Ron" was often confused with "Writer Ron" in later TNG/DS9 years, but at this time in Season 2 Ron *D.* Moore was nowhere near TNG or any pro TV work--his "The Bonding" spec script that ended his days as a waiter and vet receptionist and got him on staff in Season 3 were still a year away. |
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| + | ::::Good point......if this article is going to be in or part of a list, does a list of unnamed holograms exist? [[User:31dot|31dot]] 21:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | :::Not at present. There is a page for [[unnamed holodeck characters]], but since the peddler wasn't a holodeck creation, he doesn't belong there. It was suggested on IRC that an unnamed hologram page be created for those unnamed holograms who don't come from the holodeck. Besides the peddler, there are also some holograms that were part of [[Iden's Rebellion]]. I don't know at the moment who else would be on the list, though. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 08:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Larry Nemecek |
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| + | I posted this question at [[Unnamed photonic lifeforms]] as well, but as it appears to have gone unnoticed, I thought I would put it here, too. I believe the list of members of Iden's Rebellion would be better suited to that page than this one and should be moved there. The sentient holograms depicted in {{e|Flesh and Blood}} have far more in common with the transdimensional aliens from {{e|Bride of Chaotica!}} than they do with the Minosian peddler or the Komar singing facsimile of The Doctor. - [[User:Bridge|Bridge]] 13:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | Did Marina Sirtis really play the prostitute? I checked the episode and uploaded the pic but I don't think that this is Marina Sirtis. Where's the information of her having played the prostitute from? Or was that just somebody's observation? --[[User:Jörg|Jörg]] 00:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :I didn't think it looked like Marina myself, but I'm just going by a (more astute?) person's observation posted on the [[A_Fistful_of_Datas#Background_Information|episode page]]. Of course, feel free to revise if appropriate. - [[User:Intricated|Intricated]] 19:45, 19 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | I am more than sure this is definitly not Marina Sirtis. She looks different and I found no source for this statement.– [[User:ThomasHL|Tom]] 19:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | == "What You Leave Behind" guests == |
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| − | Could someone add the guests from {{e|What You Leave Behind}} to here? -- [[User:Excelsior|Excelsior]] 11:17, 8 April 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | *I have added images for Ira Steven Behr (Guest #6) and Hans Beimler (Guest #7). I have also added some additional guests, numbered chronologically from Guest #13 onwards - '''if this numbering is incorrect, could somebody please correct it for me'''. I took the screen grabs and assigned them to the named guests according to a description in the [[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion]] (page 715) which reads: "As Vic steps forward to greet Quark, a crowd enters behind them: Ira Behr, in his signature sunglasses, Bradley Thompson, Lolita Fatjo, elegant in green, Hans Beimler, Ron Moore followed by David Weddle". <s>However, '''I am unsure about the screen grab for Ron Moore''' (I think it may actually be René Echevarria, which would make the description in the Companion incorrect - please see [[Image talk:Ron Moore What You Leave Behind.jpg|that images's talk page]]) so I have not added it to this page yet.</s> Finally, it is also possible that Cecily Adams may be seen in this sequence - please see an image I have uploaded to my personal webspace [http://homepage.ntlworld.com/amm0405/possible-cecily-adams.jpg] and compare it to the screen grab of Adams that is already used on this page - if the woman in my new screen grab is actually her, then perhaps it could be used in this article. -- [[User:Taduolus|Taduolus]] 23:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :* I have corrected the problem regarding the screen grab of Ron D. Moore, and have added a thumb to this article. I have also added a thumb of René Echevarria. -- [[User:Taduolus|Taduolus]] 16:49, 3 September 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::There are 15 guest subsections with an image and a simple text "Played by". Wouldn't it be better to put a table with 3-4 images per line, rather than having such an extended article and TOC. - [[User:Philoust123|Philoust123]] 18:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | | align="center"| [[Image:Casey Biggs at Vics.jpg|130px]] |
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| − | | class="even" style="text-align: center" | ''Played by [[Jeffrey Combs]].'' |
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| − | | class="even" style="text-align: center" | ''Played by [[Casey Biggs]].'' |
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| − | | class="even" style="text-align: center" | ''Played by [[Aron Eisenberg ]].'' |
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| − | Sorry, but he is definitly not in Vic's Lounge. Yes, he worked on the last DS9 episode, but as stunt double for Marc Alaimo. Can anyone show me a pic from his appearance? Otherwise I'll remove his name from the guest section.– [[User:ThomasHL|Tom]] 19:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | == Change name of article? == |
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| − | I think it would be better to have this article entitled "Unnamed holographic characters", rather than the current "Unnamed holodeck characters". Technically, many of the characters listed in the article appeared in a holo'''suite''' rather than a holo'''deck'''. I know it's pedantic, but the title I've suggested would be more accurate by virtue of being more encompassing. Any support/oppose thoughts? -- [[User:Taduolus|Taduolus]] 22:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :You're right, but I don't think this is necessary. Perhaps a correction of the lead sentence would help? – [[User:ThomasHL|Tom]] 23:07, 7 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ::If he's right, we might as well change the title. It isn't exactly all that much work, just moving the page, fixing the incoming links, and deleting the redirect. All but the last one can be done by a standard user. I'll go ahead and do it if you want. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 04:08, 8 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Or perhaps, on second thoughts, better to just merge with the [[Unnamed holograms]] article? I don't see the point of having them separate. -- [[User:Taduolus|Taduolus]] 13:52, 8 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Well, the original intent of splitting them was so that we didn't have one huge and ungainly article. Which would be the case if they were merged. I'm not entirely convinced of the worth of doing that... but that's just me. The problem is, as soon as we change this to "holographic characters", it may as well just be merged. The thing is, the characters on here are specifically limited to holodecks and holosuites. Another possibility might be to split this one a bit further... and create "Unnamed holosuite characters". :) -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 14:04, 8 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | I would prefer a split of this character. The monster appeared in two or three TNG episodes and in one DS9 episode. But I think the "role" needs two entries on this side, the lists are put in sections for the television series and here is the question of a split for holodeck and holosuite characters again. Any comments? – [[User:ThomasHL|Tom]] 13:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 13:01, 15 May 2008
PNA
As the Peddler was the only Minosian seen in Star Trek, perhaps this article should be renamed to Minosian Peddler. Calling this a list of unnamed Minosians is unneccesary, as a list should consist of more than one unnamed individual. 31dot 11:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- I agree - no need for a "list article", if the list only contains one element. Moving the article back to one of the titles it already had in the past sounds good. The guy is only called "THE PEDDLER" in the script, so Minosian peddler looks like the best choice. -- Cid Highwind 14:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not convinced, he says post-move. He's still unnamed. If we start this, it opens the door to "name" all of the dudes on unnamed pages. -- Sulfur 03:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- Don't we have redirects for some of those "names" anyway? And isn't the reason that we do have "unnamed lists" more the fact that we want to avoid several stub articles than the fact that we don't want the names? In any case, a list containing one element is a little strange to look at... ;) -- Cid Highwind 08:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- I think this is a unique circumstance, but leaving that aside, my concern was more due to the fact that it was referred to as a 'list' and a list should have more than one thing(as Cid said). It could be called "Unnamed Minosian" instead, but if you're going to do that, why not just call him what he is? 31dot 20:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- And what he is... is an unnamed hologram. ;) --From Andoria with Love 20:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- Good point......if this article is going to be in or part of a list, does a list of unnamed holograms exist? 31dot 21:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- Not at present. There is a page for unnamed holodeck characters, but since the peddler wasn't a holodeck creation, he doesn't belong there. It was suggested on IRC that an unnamed hologram page be created for those unnamed holograms who don't come from the holodeck. Besides the peddler, there are also some holograms that were part of Iden's Rebellion. I don't know at the moment who else would be on the list, though. --From Andoria with Love 08:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- And what he is... is an unnamed hologram. ;) --From Andoria with Love 20:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Iden's Rebellion
I posted this question at Unnamed photonic lifeforms as well, but as it appears to have gone unnoticed, I thought I would put it here, too. I believe the list of members of Iden's Rebellion would be better suited to that page than this one and should be moved there. The sentient holograms depicted in "Flesh and Blood" have far more in common with the transdimensional aliens from "Bride of Chaotica!" than they do with the Minosian peddler or the Komar singing facsimile of The Doctor. - Bridge 13:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)