Talk: Unnamed pets

Who belongs here?

Should Kukalaka really be here? Most people don't consider their teddy bears "pets", after all. Randee15 14:32, 9 Jan 2005 (CET)

I removed Kukalaka from the list. Another question is: Should Beauregard, George and Gracie be on the list? None of them really are pets... -- Cid Highwind 14:15, 2005 Jan 31 (CET)

Perhaps it would be easier to move this to List of non-sentient animal names... --Gvsualan 19:18, 31 Jan 2005 (CET)

I'm still not quite getting the "non-sentient animal" bit. Aren't "animals" always "non-sentient"? Are any "sentient" species called "animals"? If we want to move away from the term "pet", "domestic animal" might be another choice, but all this doesn't change the fact that Beauregard is not an animal and George and Gracie are neither pets nor domestic and possibly not even "non-sentient"... ;) -- Cid Highwind 19:28, 2005 Jan 31 (CET)

*Sigh* Am I the only one that sees the theme of this list that isn't trying to be counterintuitive? They all fit together in one way or another, be it as named pets or named animals or named & contained lesser beings that are nonhumanoid-(exception)-(exception) or what-not, a theme does exist here. Now whether or not we can ever agree on what that theme is, seems to be a whole other story. The problem with the Star Trek universe is that it introduces elements that complicate something that is or should otherwise be simply cut and dry. I knew when I created this list that there would be an exception or two to the rules, but the fact remains that 86% of the names listed fit into the current category, and the other 14% of the names fit in just enough with the larger percentile to "tag along". There is certainly enough commonalities to grant the existance of this list or theme in its entirety. I'm not sure if there will ever be a list title that agrees 100% with what lies within, but it seems almost prejudice to leave the other 14% out completely, when, in one way or another, the intent remains the same. --Gvsualan 22:43, 31 Jan 2005 (CET)

How about we just move it to List of animals. -- Captain Mike K. Bartel 22:52, 31 Jan 2005 (CET)

Seems like that would miss the point. These are creatures that have been named. Tyrant 22:54, 31 Jan 2005 (CET)Tyrant

We list starships that have been named in the list of starships, we list Starfleet captains that have been named in the list of Starfleet captains.. it seems like a natural outgrowth. We could have a list of animals and a list of animal species, just as we separate other items: list of Federation starships is accompanied by a list of Federation starship classes. -- Captain Mike K. Bartel 23:01, 31 Jan 2005 (CET)

(Re: "Theme" of this list) Well, in that case we either have to find a name that matches the implicit theme of the list (whatever that really is), or edit the list until it matches the explicit title. We might even split the list to achieve both, but keeping both the title and the content as it is now would be too confusing. The most simple approach would be to remove the three "non-pets" listed above. List of animals is a possibility, although the title might be too generic. Generally, I don't see the problem with not having those three listed together with all the others - I wouldn't even expect two whales and a flower on a list of pets... :) -- Cid Highwind 23:28, 2005 Jan 31 (CET)

From MA:CS

From Category talk:Individual animals:

Did I miss the category talk for this new category? Tom (talk) 14:37, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I was unaware that I had to alert people of doing that. Other wikias were less strict about that. I just assumed that the category was necessary because certain other wikias had the same type of category, and it seemed weird that animals had to be lumped in with sentient individuals. If you want to get rid of it I understand, but I just thought it was logical for them to ave their own category.--Bwaar (talk) 14:48, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Personally I am not against this category and can see your point. I will move the discussion to the appropriate place to get the official way. Tom (talk) 14:57, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

I have just created a category for individual animals that had names. It seemed weird to me for animals to be lumped in with sentient characters, and I've noticed that other wikias have this category such as Memory Beta. --Bwaar (talk) 14:54, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Memory Alpha is not a "wikia", it is a wiki, and while I'm fundamentally and morally opposed to anyone who uses the name of that company to address this site, I can find no reason to oppose this particular suggestion. - Archduk3 18:14, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

I moved this from the category suggestions page. I think this category could help the category net and support this idea. Tom (talk) 16:15, April 10, 2015 (UTC)

Unnamed pets page

Should there be a page for this, like anti-time Data's cats, or the Teneebian skunk? --LauraCC (talk) 19:49, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Technically, these would either fall under Unnamed non-humanoids, or you should start making pages like to "Unnamed cats". That being said, having an "unnamed pets" page may still be a more elegant way of representing with that class of information. -- Capricorn (talk) 19:11, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

It would be for specifically those animals which were kept as someone's pet, yet not given a proper name like Rover or Whiskers. --LauraCC (talk) 19:13, January 8, 2016 (UTC) I've started it at Unnamed pets. You can merge if you like or leave as is. --LauraCC (talk) 18:24, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

Pet redirect

There are references to the concept of having a pet, such as Picard and Troi's discussion about not wanting a horse for a (mere) pet, but a friend, or Trip Tucker's lament that the Cognnitor was treated like a pet. I think the redirect should be changed to an article page. --LauraCC (talk) 18:57, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

Porthos' family

What about the mother? Was she named? And he said four males in the litter, but does that mean that there were no females or that four of the however many were male? --LauraCC (talk) 19:04, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

We don't know what else was in the litter or if it was just those four. Those four were named after the musketeers though, as per Porthos.

The mother? She might be worth an entry, but not as the "family". -- sulfur (talk) 19:18, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Done. --LauraCC (talk) 19:22, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Merge

This page has basically been superseded by Category:Individual animals, so it should go. Kennelly (talk) 13:47, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

Can't merge a regular content page into a category page, so i deleted the original page as the category retains the original information, and moved the talk page here. --Alan del Beccio (talk) 23:06, August 2, 2016 Gvsualan

I archived it here. --Alan del Beccio (talk) 16:59, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Balzac?

Wheat source does this name come from? If true and canon, split from unnamed pets. --LauraCC (talk) 14:50, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't think that the name comes from a permissible source. I'm not sure there's even an apocryphal source for the name (although there might be). Unless anyone can produce a source, we should probably remove the name. 🖖 Mr. Starfleet Command ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:12, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

I've removed the info and left a message on Darro Bibble's talk page. 🖖 Mr. Starfleet Command ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)