• I live in Chicago, Illinois.
  • My occupation is "active content maintainer"
  • I am waiting.


It seems rather counter intuitive to use MA:EXAMPLE to make an MA:POINT, especially to a page that has no community input or discussion to support. --Alan (talk) 17:02, January 9, 2020 (UTC)

MA:SILENT consensus is still consensus, that's the standard layout we have been using for years, and if you got an argument to make for squishing the pna notices next to the sidebars, make it. - Archduk3 17:15, January 9, 2020 (UTC)


Where is it established that it was in 2384? The preceding unsigned comment was added by SloanSection31 (talk • contribs) at 17:29, January 10, 2020 (UTC).

It wasn't. - Archduk3 17:40, January 10, 2020 (UTC)


I'm confused now, you just got through telling me not to put 2399 for anything to do with Rememberance...I was under the impression that since we aren't sure about the exact year that we'll just hold off until then.

But then--now, you're putting 2400 as the year. Curious as to why. Is that what were changing it all to? And why? When and where was this established.

Because I know of at least two sources that indicate it was 2399, but even that's not quite concrete yet as far as I can tell and other people I guess.

--Noah Tall (talk) 06:52, January 26, 2020 (UTC)

Okay nevermind, I saw your post on the talkpage.

--Noah Tall (talk) 06:56, January 26, 2020 (UTC)

Being harassed by a user

This user is mentioning me on serveral posts that are in other wiki's and now they mentioned me here. I told them MORE THAN THREE TIMES to stop. I've reported it to the Fandom contact support as well. If you want screenshots of other posts that they're tagging me in (keep in mind, they're from different wiki's), do let me know. I'll be more than GLAD to share. (Uploaded it via Deviantart because I have no idea how to add an image here. :/ )

Proof of tagging me in a post on this wiki:

The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheRealKuyong (talk • contribs).

That's the Fandom discussion board. It actually has absolutely nothing to do with us. -- sulfur (talk) 01:46, January 29, 2020 (UTC)

Don't know how it has nothing to do with you guys when in the URL it says "" but ok. Can I request to be blocked on this wiki then so I don't receive notifications in the future from them? I would like to be blocked as I unfortunately do not have any use for this wiki, so I won't be using it in the future. The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheRealKuyong (talk • contribs).

Done. I've left your personal talk page open if you choose to change your mind. -- sulfur (talk) 05:58, January 29, 2020 (UTC)


I've noticed this new breed of simple templates like {{captain}} or {{Enterprise}} popping up more and more. And I'm wondering, is there some kind of list somewhere? Never know where to go look for that kind of stuff... -- Capricorn (talk) 18:50, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

Everything should be listed at inline templates, but it's probably not complete since I tend to forget to add things after I'm done testing them. The format templates category is the safer bet for everything, but sometimes templates aren't ready for mainstream use, like {{mal}} (which is why it's still in the wrong category and not there). Other people have their own system for testing stuff, though if it's being used on several pages it's probably good to go. - Archduk3 19:03, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

That category is great. I'll just check if lots of pages link to the template before using them. Thanks! -- Capricorn (talk) 19:36, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

On a completely unrelated note, Archbot seems to have messed something up here. -- Capricorn (talk) 20:02, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

Image deletion

Hey there! I just noticed that back in January, I marked this picture', this one and this one for speedy deletion because they weren't being used and you reverted my edit. What's their purpose? Pedronog (talk) 21:04, February 4, 2020 (UTC)

I wrote a very long winded version of this responce only to have this piece of shit apple product I'm for some reason still reluctantly using erase it all after deciding to reload the page for no reason, so here is the short, less productive version:
You clearly can't even fathom how rude that question is when you didn't even bother to RTFM, so what is the point of trying to explain something to someone if they don't care to learn? Now get off my lawn.
I'm sure the nuance is completely lost there, but I did come in 8 under par. - Archduk3 06:18, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

First of all, I completely relate to your situation (even though I don't have apple products).

Second, in no foreseeable scenario did I expect my question to be rude before submitting it (you're right, I really "can't (...) fathom"). From my point of view, it was just an innocent question, because I'm used to the deletion policy of other wikias. That being said, and please don't take this in a bad way, should we just leave the pictures alone (for their "potential")? Or should they be listed on the pages for deletion page?Pedronog (talk) 08:30, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Par was the 48 words used on the speedy deletion notice, which should have made it clear that those images wouldn't apply for a speedy deletion. The link on the notice, and above, to the deletion policy which outlines the criteria for speedy deletions doesn't seem to have been used. That's the part that incredibly frustrating, and that's why the question was rude. You didn't come here asking why I did something, or what you may have missed or done incorrectly that required me to undo it. Instead, you asked, most likely unintentionally, how you could have been wrong, and for me to justify my actions on your terms, when the answer to the first part was readily available to you, and the second didn't even apply. You, and by extension everyone else for years now, want me to give an answer to the wrong question instead of making the answer you all actually want available to you. I hope you can see how that is problem if we want to write a wiki, and it's something that seems to be getting worse. That, or I'm just old and bitter and you ran head first into my pet peeve. I'm sure it's at least one of those.
TLDR: You used the wrong notice and deletion procedure. You should have used something like {{delete file|Unused files (Feb 2020)}} and started a deletion discussion instead. - Archduk3 07:06, February 6, 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Removed Vintage 2386 Image

I noticed removal reason you wrote was "Promotional"

The reason I uploaded it is that I noticed an uncanny link between all the multiple vintage 2386 dates (to my count as far as I have been able to determine -- at least 9 references to that date has been observed throughout teaser trailer (date first noticed by trekcore) / episode visuals / episode dialog / merch / etc) -- Josiah Rowe ‎helpfully moved/evolved my interesting paragraph to the correct article. You can diff both articles, to see how my text evolved.

I'm just a fan, not promoting -- thinking about this, it might have been that upon zooming, the domain name (the star trek wines site) was visible and may have inadvertently promoted it. The "merch" overlap may have readflagged -- even though it remains interesting about all the repeated 2386 references Accidentally promoting the merch was not the intent. I just felt it was really interesting to see Picard is making 2386 a frequently reference for the vintage -- at least the useful details I wrote has been preserved by Josiah. But mea culpa about the image.

In retrospect -- I guess a low-resoution screenshot (not photograph), no browser bars, zero mentions about merch, would be better and be within guidelines. My apologies. Mdrejhon (talk) 07:46, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

The problem wasn't you showing a bit of promotional material, it was inserting yourself into it by arranging the shot and mixing things together that are under different copyrights. You can upload an image of the wine bottle, and an image of the label, and a screenshot, and then talk about the contents of those images and how they relate to each other and that's fine. You can't put all three together in the same image to create a copyrightable art arrangement of copyrighted things though. That's not fair use for discussion or coverage of the topic, that's a whole other differnet thing, which is not what we're going for. - Archduk3 07:06, February 6, 2020 (UTC)

Spoilers for ST episodes

Since its been close to four months since the first three episodes of Short Trek Season 2 can we remove the spoiler tab from those pages?--Jkirk8907 (talk) 23:02, February 8, 2020 (UTC)

Six months is the magical timeline. -- sulfur (talk) 01:39, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Higher quality images

I don't know if there's any regulation about it or not (I never saw any), but why wouldn't a better quality image be preferable over a smaller version? I'm referring to this picture for example. Sincerely, Pedronog (talk) 16:53, February 10, 2020 (UTC)

Stop copying the address bar and use internal links WITHOUT underscores. It's lazy and people shouldn't have to clean up after you. "orbits_planet" and "orbits planet" are not the same thing.
Don't confuse size with quality.
Your upload wasn't cropped correctly, since it had black bars on the image. This also makes it seem that it's from a fullscreen presentation, which gos back to the last point. - Archduk3 17:13, February 10, 2020 (UTC)

Aftershow stuff

Are you still working on the aftershow templates? If so, cool... if not, the links seem to be broken in the aftershow nav bars and TRR connects. I don't want to try to fix them and mess up what you're working on... -- Renegade54 (talk) 22:19, February 20, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm still working on it. I must be missing a bracket somewhere in the 6 templates I made to control this so it would be easy to change. I just need to find it. - Archduk3 22:48, February 20, 2020 (UTC)

Whining child advocating censorship over art

Please revert the main Icheb image as the most current is too graphic and not family friendly. Thanks. 13:41, February 26, 2020 (UTC)Gem

No. Get over it or feel free to write Alex Kurtzman and complain. - Archduk3 14:26, February 26, 2020 (UTC)

I got an idea, how about someone slit your throat, we take a picture, upload it then call it art. Btw Im middle aged you n1-gg-er. The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) at 08:04, February 29, 2020 (UTC).

I have intermittent explosive disorder. I randomly go into a rage with little to no provocation. I do not mean the sadistic things I say when this happens and am sorry for any fear, discontent or annoyance I have caused because of this condition. My words during these episodes are blasphemous and hold no true meaning to how I actually feel about certain topics. I have removed my previous hateful message as I did not wish for you to see. However you deserve to know what has transpired in the meantime. I am constantly ashamed of this disability I have and truly wish no harm to come to you. It has kept me up all night. I will forever leave you and this webpage now. I hope you can forgive my disgusting words and look past this. Thank you Duke. 11:33, February 29, 2020 (UTC)Gem

No. You'll find no absolution here. I feel pretty confident that San Diego and Chicago are far enough apart to make your death threat nothing more than some good old fasion /b, but you'll understand that the internet is forever, and this is still a crime. - Archduk3 13:51, February 29, 2020 (UTC)

Recent edit to mirror universe page

Greetings, I'm Hurrah.

I was wondering why you reverted my edits to the Mirror universe page. In my edit, I removed "The Tholian Web" from appearances. I believe it should not be referenced there because in the actual episode, the mirror universe featured is the universe the Defiant fell into. This is not the same mirror universe as THE mirror universe shown in "Mirror, Mirror" (TOS), featuring Spock with a beard, etc. which the page on the mirror universe is specifically referencing. For reference, the page showing all the other universes is titled Parallel universe, which does in fact mention the above mirror universe.

Please let me know if I got something wrong.

--Hurrah123456 (talk) 03:27, March 16, 2020 (UTC)

You're wrong. - Archduk3 04:22, March 16, 2020 (UTC)

Discussion Pages

It's a good thing I remembered to go back and visit this page before I ended up making you ban me or whatever you were planning on doing if I did it again. For the record man, I was not posting as another user. I simply copied what he already said and pasted it on the appropriate page. I realize I should've just said "Hey this is what User:Whatshisname said on another talkpage etc, but still.

And on that subject, can we all make up our minds about where to discuss what please? Every time I or someone else start a discussion in the wrong page, I'm told "you're on the wrong talk page," so I was just trying to help out by putting it in the correct discussion page. Didn't know I was gonna get banned for it or blocked or told "this is your last warning!" People have done that to my discussion posts as well. Now if you don't want people doing that, fine, but it might be better to just send me a message on my actual user talk I'm more likely to see it before I make the same mistake again. I had already forgotten about that until today, and I think you made that post on the twenty-first or something like that. The point is I never saw it, and I basically had a whole week or so to screw it up and do the same thing again.--Noah Tall (talk) 01:02, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

You're damn right you will be blocked if you keep duplicating other users comments. If there was a real danger of that happening in the last few days, you're just making my case for me. Admins move discussions if they need to be moved, we don't duplicate posts. You can link to other discussions, you can even quote them with citations, but none of that is what happened there. Your thinking that was OK is a you problem, and not following up on your own posts is also a you problem. I'm not paid to be here, and I'm not in the business of duplicating conversations. Take responsibility for yourself.
While we're on that subject though, I can't stop people from starting discussions in the "wrong" locations. Where a discussion starts is where it is unless it's really in the wrong location. Maybe people should take five seconds and ask themselves what they really want to discuss before just posting something anywhere they happen to be at the time. I would think common sense would say if you're trying to change a policy the policy's talk page would be the "best" location for that discussion, but apparently I'm not common at all. I'm also very concerned that you think this is somehow the page that determines what we allow, when you own talk page would tell you otherwise. - Archduk3 06:07, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

User page deletion?

If I want my userpage deleted, how does it work? MechQueste 16:14, March 31, 2020 (UTC)

You need wikia to delete your account, so we know at some point it won't be back. Otherwise, we need to keep your page so there aren't red links everywhere you have been. - Archduk3 16:20, March 31, 2020 (UTC)


Hey, when you get a minute, could you take a look at the main page at mu:? I can't figure out why the image in the header panel keeps ending up displaying in the next panel down (search, I think). I've poked around with it for an hour now, and I'm stumped. It's probably something simple that I'm being stupid about, but it's driving me (more) nuts. Thanks! -- Renegade54 (talk) 21:27, April 2, 2020 (UTC)

It looks like the ad was pushing it down, assuming it's fixed now. They have been putting in tower ads in that spot, so this might leave a bunch of blank space, which is not ideal. I'm really not sure because I run a lot of blocking stuff normally. - Archduk3 22:04, April 2, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, me too. I tend to forget about all that Wikia ad crap, since I never see any if it... but, yeah, I guess it's still there. Thanks for taking a look at it. -- Renegade54 (talk) 01:29, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

Image Policy

Hey, there! I was wondering what's the policy at MA about a character's main image. In the documentary "What We Left Behind", there is remastered footage of both Jadzia Dax and Leeta from season 5 of DS9. I could use that footage to create good profile images for them, but they both appeared after that. Should I leave the current images or upload the new ones? Pedronog (talk) 08:30, April 10, 2020 (UTC)

Generally speaking we want a "last" and "first" image, in-universe. Season 5 isn't really close to that for either of them, but if there is an image of them from around that time that isn't in the sidebar that could be changed to that footage, I would. - Archduk3 17:56, April 10, 2020 (UTC)

That's what I thought, thanks. I tried to look on the policies and guidelines, but couldn't find anything related to that. About the Leeta one, should I upload a new file to replace the current one on the Bajoran page or should I just leave it as it is? - Pedronog (talk) 18:32, April 10, 2020 (UTC)

It's not a policy or guideline, it's a standard that applies, in that we discussed it and do it but we didn't write it down. It's your call for the other one, but I know that image was probably chosen for the look on her face. - Archduk3 18:42, April 10, 2020 (UTC)

I won't touch it then... - Pedronog (talk) 19:00, April 10, 2020 (UTC)

Emergency Hologram basic installation

Wouldn't it make more sense to use the direct links rather than the redirects? --Kevin W.Talk to me 00:51, April 14, 2020 (UTC)

Why would you think it would? - Archduk3 17:57, May 8, 2020 (UTC)

POV pna

I'm not seeing a POV issue with that alternate universe uniforms page. Did I miss something? -- Renegade54 (talk) 18:02, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

See here. Constantly comparing the AR uniforms to the TOS uniforms in-universe is like talking about the Nightingale by comparing it to the Federation attack fighter. The connection between the two is real world, not in-universe. Since I wrote that though, DIS added another wrinkle into it in that the "prime" uniforms at that time are the Federation blue versions, unless 2258 is when the switch is made fleet wide to the TOS colored versions of those uniforms happens, meaning that comparisons to the original TOS uniforms are even more incorrect for an in-universe perspective then they were then. - Archduk3 18:12, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

Ahh, yeah, you're right... sorry, I should've noticed that, or at least read the talk page first. And the DIS uniforms are an oddity... especially after seeing the Pike and company uniforms. I'm not sure how to reconcile that... anything that we'd come up with would be speculation, since there's been no in-universe rationale. -- Renegade54 (talk) 19:22, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

Pike did at least quipped that they have the "new" uniforms on the Enterprise, but since they were in use in 2254, "new" is several years old at that point in 2257, and the Federation blue bit at least implies other colors are an option. The uniforms on the USS Cabot are the real sticking point though, since some of the crew have the DIS style TOS colored uniform while the rest are wearing variations that are even closer to the TOS uniforms, while still having the DIS styling on the shoulders but dropping the black wrap around on the neck. The rest are in straight up TOS looking shirts. - Archduk3 20:16, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

Class/Type capitalization

So I'll just come to the source rather than spend my time reading endless talk pages: should Unnamed Class J starships be capitalized as "Unnamed Class J starships" for the same reason "Unnamed Type 8 shuttlecraft" are formatted? --Alan (talk) 18:47, April 28, 2020 (UTC)

It's my understanding that "Type 8" and "Class J" are the proper names of those ship types, as opposed to a general type name like cruiser or warbird, so yes. Not sure if that makes sense, but "Class J" is the like the "SR-71 Blackbird" designation while starship and reconnaissance plane are types of craft. - Archduk3 21:28, April 28, 2020 (UTC)

Starship list

I was wondering if there was a list anywhere which details what Starships entered service by decade not just by century.

I'm specifically looking for information on Starships which entered service either before or on 2250.

Thanks The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) at 17:02, May 8, 2020 (UTC)‎.

No, since we generally don't have information on when a ship entered service. You could compile something from the lists we do have. - Archduk3 17:57, May 8, 2020 (UTC)


Chan you check my draft template? It is located at User:14bauhr/sandbox#Template:Mgamma. --Soulkeeper (Talk | contribs) 07:01, June 6, 2020 (UTC)

We DON'T want links to Memory Gamma, which is why there isn't a template for that. - Archduk3 14:19, June 6, 2020 (UTC)

Admin task requests

Hello, I have a few suggestions to improve the site (mainly non-reader-facing) and didn't see a community portal or admin noticeboard-type page. Hope you don't mind me contacting you directly, not that I'm saying you have to be the one to handle these. So far:

<noinclude>[[Category:Memory Alpha documentation|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>
<noinclude>[[Category:Memory Alpha documentation]]</noinclude>
[[Category:Memory Alpha documentation|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:Memory Alpha documentation]]
  • Template:For loop and several pages that link to it (and to those) seem to be unused and badly copied from Wikipedia, if the script errors on that page are any indication. There doesn't seem to be much point in keeping them around.
  • Please see my suggestion at Template talk:Episode#Refactor Template:Titles? to resolve the issues with too many expensive function calls.

If I can be of any assistance with code (template, JS, Lua, CSS, etc) or bot tasks (I use AWB), my talk page is always open. Best regards, ~Bobogoobo (talk) 23:50, June 24, 2020 (UTC)

My next proposal is User:Bobogoobo/Template:SeasonBrowser for use on season pages. Is there a process for this to go through? Also, if it does get approved, may I update pages to use it or would it be better not to clog RecentChanges? I do have a bot account that I use Wikia-wide if giving that a flag would be preferable, although it looks like Wikia has their hands here as well, selectively, and it would require a Special:Contact to get a flag applied. Again, thanks for your attention (or that of another admin). ~Bobogoobo (talk) 02:39, June 25, 2020 (UTC)

You can do the required things to set up your bot here, as well as contact sulfur for the bot flag, and make the changes with the doc categories if you have a way of including the category on only the doc subpage, and not the template page itself. That's the only reason I can figure as to why we have been doing it manually.
I'm not sure what Renegade54 was up to with the loop template, beyond just importing help pages, so I would poke them about that.
The titles templates are used in a few different places, so it's a bit more complicated than what you suggested. That said, something close to what you suggested there is a very good idea, we just need to get it to work with the rest of the backend stuff. I'm in the middle of switching over the episode sidebars by hand, for lazy formatting reasons, and I can take a look at that in more detail after those are done. We already have a whole mess of switches for episode stuff, so a few more shouldn't hurt.
I'm sure the help would be appreciated. I know a few people poked at the lua stuff when it was new, but I don't think it went much beyond that. "The company" made custom CSS and JS mostly pointless with the constant and unnecessary tweaks for years, but since they've been distracted by cleaning up years of their bad decisions in the code it has more or less stabilized. That said, most of what we want with the CSS and JS isn't "allowed" anymore anyway, though another set of eyes on it wouldn't hurt since I haven't really bothered to keep it up to date since we lost access to the mediawiki pages.
There isn't really a template approval process, though you'll find out after the fact if anyone has an issue with it. We do use standard English for naming them though, so normal capitalization and spacing. In this case, I think the naming scheme we are using would have it as {{season nav}}.
Otherwise, welcome to MA, we're a crotchety lot. Well, at least Alan and I are crotchety. - Archduk3 15:04, June 25, 2020 (UTC)
Just FYI, I've put the {{season nav}} into place (and split off the doc page/etc). I also implemented it on the TOS, LD, and SNW series to see how it was working in all cases. I haven't read through the rest of the text wall yet. :) -- sulfur (talk) 15:39, June 25, 2020 (UTC)
We're *all* crotchety to one extent or another, it's just that Archduk3 and Alan are *more* crotchety than most. :P See my comments on Template talk:Episode#Refactor Template:Titles? for my take on that one. As far as {{for loop}} and its associated Lua module, it's a work in progress, as are all the bits of Lua stuff that I've imported from Wikipedia. Many of the scripts error out on the doc pages because thing they reference either haven't been imported yet, or more likely, are examples that need to be reworked for MA rather than Wikipedia. Most of the Lua stuff I've imported isn't in use yet primarily because it's not yet ready to be used. If I've ported the code poorly or incorrectly, by all means have at it to fix it. I only work on it when I have a big enough block of time to dig into it, so... it's a work in progress. :) Like Archduk3 said, we've been, ummm, frustrated more than a bit by many of the tools that we used in the past having been taken away from us, like CSS, JS, and most stuff in the Mediawiki namespace. We can't even change simple text strings any more, for whatever arcane reason. Don't get me started. -- Renegade54 (talk) 19:10, June 25, 2020 (UTC)

Don't worry, I've been known to get crotchety myself when I spend too long wiki diving. Thank you all for the kind welcome. I stopped keeping up with Wikia's updates for a few years; it's good that they have improvements on the way, but I'd forgotten they locked admins out of so many important areas. Thankfully it seems custom CSS and JS still work the way they used to, at least on other wikis where I use it - did they even lock you guys out of that? If there are any particular areas/code that could use help or review, let me know.

I've made the change to {{documentation subpage}} - nothing should actually change, I'd just like to clean up the categorization code for my own satisfaction. Bot flag request is submitted. Will follow up on EpLink.

As for the imported Lua templates, what is the ultimate intention for their use? My opinion is that due to how Wikipedia does things and platform differences, it's usually faster, easier, and more efficient to build what you need from scratch.

Thanks, ~Bobogoobo (talk) 23:46, June 25, 2020 (UTC)


Hello, regarding this edit, could you explain to me the reasoning behind retaining a link to a redirect in a navbox, when the displayed text is unchanged? It's just a habit I'm not used to as other wikis I've edited have been in the practice of avoiding linking to redirects whenever possible. I've also encountered confusing situations recently where different pages linked to the same article using different titles, making me think they were different terms. Thanks, ~Bobogoobo (talk) 09:21, June 29, 2020 (UTC)

Can you explain the rationale for not using the redirect?
We want to use the terms used in the episodes and films, so if something has a number of different names we use the name used in the material being covered so the what links here is accurate for each term. People keep coming by and "fixing" these though, since at one point someone thought a microsecond of load time was going to be important, not knowing how bogged down each page would be with poor coding and ads anyway.
In short, other wikis are wrong and don't fully utilize the mediawiki system to their benefit. - Archduk3 18:44, June 29, 2020 (UTC)

That makes sense. I guess the rationale for not using redirects is what I said at the end of my message - it can be confusing to readers about which term is more accurate or correct - but that wouldn't apply to this case where different media use different terms for the same thing. Wikipedia agrees with you about WLH, so I guess I just had learned a bad habit. However, WP does say it's usually best to avoid redirects in navigational templates, because it will cause that page not to be bolded in the template when viewed (which is why I changed it). Thanks, ~Bobogoobo (talk) 01:50, June 30, 2020 (UTC)

You Have Viotaled Wiki Policy

This is Anonymous 1029384756 signed out so i can leave you a message. You have violated wiki policy. The policy of this wiki states that bans are to prevent harmful edits, not to be used as punishment. You have done extactly that by using the excuse of HARASSMENT against me! Against me! YOU HAVE HARASSED ME, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. After i got blocked the first time, i did some research and found out that you have a long history of harassing and making fun of editors. I am not the first nor the most significant victim. This is unacceptable. memory alpha policy specifically states bans and blocks are for preventing harmful edits. WIKI POLICY STATES THAT THEY ARE NOT TO BE USED AS PUNISHMENT BECAUSE I SAID SOMETHING YOU DIDNT LIKE. For a long time, I used calm and resonable counterarguments while you and Gsuvalan replied angrily to my arguments and made fun of them. Also, I now make sure to go to the talk page after i make an edit and it is reverted once. I got banned for SOMETHING I SAID ON A TALK PAGE. I DID NOT MAKE ANY HARMFUL EDIT TO WARRANT A ONE WEEK BAN! You and Gsuvalan should learn to listen to other opinions and not make fun of them! I only typed an argy reply after you had done so many times while i tried to remain calm and rational. I have not harassed anyone. I am actually very offended as I feek that i have been a victim of harassment, online and in the real world. I despise harassment. You have harassed me and many other users for YEARS. THE HYPOCRISY! You violated wiki policy by banning me. You banned me as punishment because i called you and gsuvalan out for what i interpreted as harassment. If you dont believe you were harassing me, banning me and playing the victim card doens't help your case at all. You are a hypocrite. -- 18:48, June 29, 2020 (UTC)

That's nice. You're, and I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say "still", not worth the effort. Since you're clearly here with an ulterior motive though, this will get us to the end of the cycle faster. The nails will continue exponentially until you get off your cross, but you'll excuse me if I don't hold my breath. Have a good day. - Archduk3 21:01, June 29, 2020 (UTC)
Get used to it, Anonymous. Around here, admins can do whatever they want to anyone with no repercussions. If getting blocked bothers you that much, get a VPN to change your IP address and you can continue editing normally. Since you're not a vandal, I don't feel that I'm doing anything wrong by telling you this. Also, don't write sentences in all caps because this can be interpreted as aggressive behaviour. --NetSpiker (talk) 03:41, June 30, 2020 (UTC)
It absolutely is NetSpiker, since you're telling another user to disrupt MA to prove a point, which is doing that thing yourself, and it's one of the many things this user is blocked for. Since it seems you're giving me a free card to do whatever I want to you now, do any have any requests? - Archduk3 05:19, June 30, 2020 (UTC)

Bot/template issue

Please see this edit which made most of the page into small text due to an unescaped pipe. I just fixed it on Template talk:Sidebar starship and figured I should check the rest of Cleanse's signatures. I only checked a couple pages before noticing it was a bot issue; it seems not all pages were affected as Template talk:Sidebar species was spared for some reason. Thanks, ~Bobogoobo (talk) 03:48, July 5, 2020 (UTC)

I thought I had all of those fixed on a subsequent run. I'll check for it again on the next one. - Archduk3 23:58, July 5, 2020 (UTC)
I have now removed the formatting from my signature to avoid any future issues.–Cleanse (talk) 01:48, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
The formatting wasn't the problem, at least not in this version of your signature. You did have another one where the small and sup tags were unbalanced, which I did do a bot run to fix. That's why I missed these, since I didn't think to check for the correct formatting too. You can also template your signature so there is only the single location with the formatting, making changes easier in the future. - Archduk3 14:48, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Archduk3. –Cleanse (talk) 09:34, July 7, 2020 (UTC)

Page Vandalism

The disambiguation page sex may have been vandalized. I keep undoing it, but you. Can you please explain to me which version is right? The page just screamed vandalism: "*Sex appeal, what naughty bananas have" was on the page. I don't see why this is considered legitimate. There are also a lot of links to articles that do not exist. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joesom (talk • contribs).

See User talk:Sulfur#Possible Vandalism. -- sulfur (talk) 16:16, July 19, 2020 (UTC)


Why did you revert my edits to the Nagilum page? I literally just changed the pronouns to reflect the fact that Nagilum wasn’t male or female and replaced it and he with singular they. And then after you reverted it you replaces the instances of he with “it”. Why didn’t you leave my edit alone? It implies that they are an object and not a sentient being. I think the singular form of tent, which can be used in proper grammar in cases of unknown gender or referring to aliens without gender or with different genders. Please change the pronouns back as it is more appropriate to use they then it. --Anonymous 1029384756 (talk) 18:11, July 22, 2020 (UTC)

No. You're wrong. - Archduk3 18:17, July 22, 2020 (UTC)
Archduk3 is right. Nagilum is referred to using the "it" pronoun in the episode:
FAKE TROI: Our destroying ourselves won't change its mind, Captain. I would feel that.
TROI: Captain, it has gone. I no longer feel its presence.
And also in the script:
Nagilum's eyes have seemed to center on Data. Its voice MODERATES.
where Nagilum still seems to peer in through the Main Viewer. Its eyes now move to Picard.
--NetSpiker (talk) 03:28, July 23, 2020 (UTC)

Titles and template conversions


Can we re-add this so that it translates to {{film|<num>|R}}?

It was useful to separate out manually added crap. -- sulfur (talk) 23:24, July 22, 2020 (UTC)

Sure. I didn't realize it was useful for that. - Archduk3 01:32, July 23, 2020 (UTC)

We were also using the series (S-R) one in a similar way... might have to come up with something new/clever in the DPL, but I don't know if it can look at template variables. -- sulfur (talk) 02:16, July 23, 2020 (UTC)

We can always use something like {{track}}. - Archduk3 04:46, July 26, 2020 (UTC)

Minor issue with {{s}}

Just FYI... it's sorting AT and TRR shows into the wrong places for files.

First example: {{s|TRR}} is dropping things into "Category:Memory Alpha files by production (TRR)" when it should be dropping them into Category:Memory Alpha files by production (The Ready Room).

The other example: {{s|AT}} is dropping things into "Category:Memory Alpha files by production (AT)" when it should be dropping them into Category:Memory Alpha files by production (After Trek).

Just to let you know. -- sulfur (talk) 21:51, July 24, 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. - Archduk3 22:20, July 24, 2020 (UTC)

Minor issue with {{talkpage}}

Noticed that (for example) Talk:Let He Who Is Without Sin... (episode) no longer links to the 'MA files from this episode (0)' = Category:Memory Alpha files by production (I AM ERROR: Let He Who Is Without Sin...) --Alan (talk) 16:13, July 28, 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. One of my find & replace runs must have not reacted well to "..." and removed the "(episode)" part of the page names. - Archduk3 16:20, July 28, 2020 (UTC)

Ditto with the "exciting"-titled episodes Talk:Bride of Chaotica! (episode) and Talk:Operation -- Annihilate! (episode). --Alan (talk) 04:09, August 29, 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. -- Sulfur (talk) 04:13, August 29, 2020 (UTC)



PS this means that all our tabview stuff (mostly on movies?) is going to have to change out, since they're removing that "feature" -- sulfur (talk) 21:17, August 5, 2020 (UTC)

I think most of that is on the help pages actually with {{help tabs}}, with only the credits for the films using it. I don't know if that's going to break the Upcoming productions stuff displaying on the portals, but I'm sure they didn't do any testing beyond what looks good for them. You should let Renegade54 know too if you haven't already, since he did most of these if I'm remember it right.
Also, we have stuff that disqualifies us for now. - Archduk3 21:29, August 5, 2020 (UTC)

I know we do. Another wiki I'm on was in the DQ'd on first stage. It's getting converted Friday. Sigh. I'll ping this over to R54 too though, just to be sure. -- sulfur (talk) 01:09, August 6, 2020 (UTC)

Great timing, its not like we have new content through the rest of the year starting now or anything. This would be a great time to break shit. Also, is this why nothing has been updating on the backend? I'm just saying I like running two days worth of null edits to 30,000+ pages to find a handful of direct calls to "EpLinks" as much as the next guy, but it was really stupid I had to do that. That said, we might want to make an announcement and have a central place to report broken stuff if people find any before they start. - Archduk3 08:02, August 6, 2020 (UTC)

ready room s3

I'm not sure if MA should actually have aftershows registered for LD 1x02-05. At the end of the aftershow for the pilot Wil Wheaton said he'd be back for the 6th episode of the season to interview the cast, which could imply there aren't any aftershows until then? Also, the 1x01 aftershow was marked as a "special." --Hurrah123456 (talk)

I haven't had a chance to look at it myself, but adjustments will be made if that's correct. - Archduk3 20:18, August 6, 2020 (UTC)

Found it. [1] at 30:44 - 30:58. --Hurrah123456 (talk) 20:20, August 6, 2020 (UTC)

Minor episode module issue

"The Wire"

DS9: "The Wire"

Hover over those two... -- sulfur (talk) 01:30, August 7, 2020 (UTC)

And found it. There was a typo in "The Wirer". :) -- sulfur (talk) 01:33, August 7, 2020 (UTC)

And vs. &

I realize that "&" has a particular meaning in credits, but I didn't think we were treating these as credits, but instead as a simple listing of who appeared. If not, then all the other TRR and AT templates need to be changed. I think that treating them purely as a recitation of the guest list makes more sense, though. -- Renegade54 (talk) 19:23, August 7, 2020 (UTC)

I'm treating them as credits when it lists them in the graphic in list form, because at that point I'm under the impression any contractual stuff about this would kick in. If the graphic doesn't have the names, or don't use a list format, then it's simply listing who appeared. Generally, if they used an "&" I'm saying we should too. - Archduk3 19:32, August 7, 2020 (UTC)

Image Paramount

Sure you don't want to rename it to "image start trek"? ;) -- sulfur (talk) 17:10, August 8, 2020 (UTC)

If you think people will go for it... #starttrek - Archduk3 19:02, August 8, 2020 (UTC)


Btw... Wikia's blocked another bit -- we can't edit the template anymore. :P -- Sulfur (talk) 23:37, September 4, 2020 (UTC)

If this happens we just need to update the redirect to something they aren't blocking. - Archduk3 23:51, September 4, 2020 (UTC)

Good to know for the future. :) -- Sulfur (talk) 23:52, September 4, 2020 (UTC)

Here's hoping we don't ever need it for the future. :) - Archduk3 00:37, September 5, 2020 (UTC)

Q Species Talk Page

I have noticed you have stopped responding to the Talk page conversation on the page for the Q Species. Please continue to check that talk page as the discussion is far from over. --Anonymous 1029384756 (talk) 16:34, September 5, 2020 (UTC)

No. It is. If you're not done, let me assure you that you will be. - Archduk3 17:05, September 5, 2020 (UTC)


Can you pop on the slack site and change out the admin-temp channel? -- Sulfur (talk) 21:27, September 14, 2020 (UTC)


The image you replaced over is cropped while I uploaded the whole image. Where I often edit (Disney Wiki) we never use crop images for display in the infoboxes. The rest of the LD images displayed in the episode infoboxes are whole, why not the one for the current episode? I'm not trying to tell you how do your job, but there was clearly no reason for cropping it.--AlexJarrett242 (talk) 21:15, September 17, 2020 (UTC)

Clearly there was a reason to crop it, or an admin wouldn't have done it. You can't be both not telling me how to do my job and clearly right, so you must be clearly wrong and doing just that. Next time, ask first. We're not the Disney wiki, and there is no rule about only using uncropped images in the sidebars for episodes. Our policy actually says to "Edit the file before upload to contain only the necessary information", and a group of people off set in the frame only slightly isn't ascetically pleasing nor cropped to just the subjects. That's basic composition. - Archduk3 21:45, September 17, 2020 (UTC)

But is it not important to insure complete accuracy? I'm all about accuracy. Inaccuracy just bugs me. Images are my speciality, and I'm autistic. You can kind of guess that an autistic person would react to something out of place from a certain point of view. Look, I'm not going rebel or anything. I always respect that all wikis are run differently. I respect Wookieepedia's, Arrowvers', and I will do the same with Memory Alpha.--AlexJarrett242 (talk) 21:56, September 17, 2020 (UTC)

Nothing of value was lost for our purposes by cropping the image. That said, that particular image doesn't have to be the one used in the sidebar. If it's going to bug you that much just use a different image that doesn't need cropping according to the policy or the "rules" of composition. We generally prefer landscaped or square images for the sidebars anyways, but that shot doesn't look right as a still image without centering it on the group. - Archduk3 22:06, September 17, 2020 (UTC)

Episode sidebars done

FYI... all converted to the new style, and all of the ones that had the extra data in them have been slimmed down to the basics (plus a few more data typos fixed :) ). I think that we're prolly ready to move the new 'temp' template in place of the real thing and then I can bot-run the full set of changes in the DB. -- Sulfur (talk) 19:50, September 19, 2020 (UTC)

Bot run beginning. -- Sulfur (talk) 23:09, September 19, 2020 (UTC)

[Edit comflict] - Excellent. I've moved the template over so it should be good to go. I'll probably run a sweep myself to clear out any empty calls too. - Archduk3 23:18, September 19, 2020 (UTC)
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