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- 1 Fandom editor of the month
- 2 Doctor|Dr.
- 3 Polite request about a somewhat patronising indents comment
- 4 Thank you
- 5 Fleet captain image deletions
- 6 Shaxs as a Background Character
- 7 Removal of Birthdate/Year for Klingon Actor
- 8 A little help/advice
- 9 Page addition apology.
- 10 One more Cerritos crew member
- 11 Ensign Castro
- 12 File:Dress uniform, early 2380s.png should be reverted
- 13 Physical Media and Case Types (DVD, HD DVD, Blu-ray disc, and 4K UHD disc.)
Fandom editor of the month
Hey Alan, how are you? I don't know if you had noticed or were otherwise contacted about it already, but I just wanted to let you know that you were named Fandom's editor for October 2020 in the Movies/TV vertical. You can read more about it in this blog. Apart from wanting to let you know, I also just wanted to drop by to congratulate you myself, as this a definitely deserved. You're on of those users who basically owns the RecentChanges feed so it's no wonder that you get recognition for that. So congrats and take care! Lady Lostris / 18:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- News to me. Thanks for the attaboy. –Gvsualan (talk) 18:15, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Hehehe, I'm at least glad I got to bring it to your attention than. Pat on the shoulder, for whatever it's worth, is always nice to give to deserving people (and nice to receive as well, I hope :-p). Lady Lostris / 18:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Could your bot, or whoever’s, change [Doctor|Dr.]s for Dr.? Been changing them as I've found them but it’s now doing my head in so this'd be useful – if it's felt it needs to happen. Tried to add this to bot request page but couldn’t sign for some reason. ThanksArcher4real (talk) 11:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Polite request about a somewhat patronising indents comment
"figures someone wouldn't follow indents properly"
I try to follow a +1 indent from whatever it's replying to approach, a pretty typical one. If MA has a special rule regarding indents, why not tell me it, or link me to it, as opposed to saying that it "figures" that I of all people wouldn't know how to follow it? :) AnotherOddity (talk) 22:46, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- MA:TALK: '~keep your original indent.' I'm sure it has been mentioned on that talk page and it's archive a dozen times; but then again, people tend to only see what they want to see.
- Additionally, your attempt to "shame me" by linking my name to your comments as if I, rather than yourself, was the one out of line, is bordering on violating MA:POINT. You can't add a variable to a sidebar that doesn't exist in the template, and to be clear, that has ZERO to do with the article's other "issues"; but then again, people tend to only see what they want to see. –Gvsualan (talk) 23:15, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
While one person was, frankly speaking attacked for imperfect indentation in the talk page/archive, it was not me, and the "dozen times" were once, though as you said, I suppose "people tend to only see what they want to see".
Furthermore I pretty typically try to always link the name of a person in the comments, it helps it stand out to them if they have been mentioned, sadly MA lacks a ping feature as far as I can see. MA:POINT really does not apply there though. Me mentioning your name is within a comment pertaining in part to you does not prove any point, not is it really any disruption.
My reversion is rather sound though, Sulfur provided an explanation for their change, but one which was grossly inaccurate and irrelevant (again, MA:RESOURCE has no bearing on sidebar formatting). Thus given the absence of an actual explanation, and the fact this was a point of contention, such an edit looked highly suspicious, as my edit summary and commentary offered. In fact at the time it looked very much like User:Sulfur was simply refusing to "get the point" by ignoring consensus decisions.
That said your change on indentation does not follow MA:TALK and while there have been some cases of me not following it (indenting in a reply to myself), I was replying to User:BenBernake so unless you are accusing us of sockpuppetry, which would be rather false I should say, then the case of indentation which you "corrected" was in fact originally correct, and it is your change which is violating policy. AnotherOddity (talk) 11:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- What Gvsualan is trying to say is that if your first post had an indent of 3 colons, then each post you make in that thread needs to have an indent of 3 colons, regardless of who you're replying to. In this particular thread, you're the first poster so you shouldn't have any colons at all and I've corrected your second post accordingly. I've heard that this is different to how Wikipedia and most other wikis do it, but it's pretty easy to learn. --NetSpiker (talk) 12:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Ah, what a curious and unusual structure. I appreciate you taking the time to actually explain it though NetSpiker! This is all it needed, a simple explanation! AnotherOddity (talk) 16:40, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Well I'm glad I have this talk page here for your pleasure. –Gvsualan (talk) 17:14, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- YW, and because it was referenced in the script as "although they do not exactly reproduce any period in Earth's past, are sufficiently reminiscent of Charles II's England to give the impression that this is a corresponding period in the planet's past," and to add France would technically be speculative, or at least, allowing that observation would allow or encourage other people to add whatever they feel it like it resembled as well. The other alternative would be to remove any reference to it, I just kept the one that was best supported. –Gvsualan (talk) 15:10, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Fleet captain image deletions
Can you point me towards the link for the deletion discussion for the images on Fleet captain? I missed the discussion and just want to read what was said. Thank you! -Commodore75 (talk) 23:22, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Memory Alpha:Files for deletion/Speculative rank insignia, but in short, re: the film insignia, it was a fan creation copied from ste (which itself introduced its own inaccuracies/inconsistencies), otherwise not shown on screen, and therefore not canon. –Gvsualan (talk) 01:26, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Shaxs as a Background Character
<removed section copied from Talk:Much Ado About Boimler (episode) for no reason whatsoever...> First of all, it's not a live-action show, so my argument could still hold. Secondly, Tatasciore is not explicitly credited as Shaxs in the opening credits: his name is listed without his corresponding characters, like the rest of the cast. - VaderFan01 (talk) 19:14, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- *Sigh* Your are creating this knucklehead problem all by yourself. All of the actors ate officially credited for their main role. And as I already said, supplemental VOs are just that, where main characters will always have precedence. That's how it is or should be, across the board, for all series. He is a credited actor whose character appeared with no lines. Even if he didn't appear at all, he's still credited and would be referenced the same, just as it is with the 102 episodes Cirroc Lofton was credited for and actually did not appear at all in. --Gvsualan (talk) 05:05, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- With all due respect, I meant that Fred Tatasciore is not credited as voicing Shaxs in the opening credits of the episode. Furthermore, T'Ana is listed as a background character on the page for "LD: "Cupid's Errant Arrow"", which makes sense, as she has no lines in that episode.
- Moreover, I did not mean to imply that Fred Tatasciore does not voice anyone in "Much Ado About Boimler"; I simply meant that he does not perform Shaxs in that episode. Since this particular series is not live-action, Shaxs could still be depicted as a character even if Tatasciore was not able to voice him. - VaderFan01 (talk) 17:51, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
Removal of Birthdate/Year for Klingon Actor
Alan, I appreciate everything you are doing on this site but have slight request if possible. Would love the Removal of the Birth Year that's listed for Josef Cannon, I've changed it a few times to 1980 but it keeps being replaced with 1960. This is a persoanl request from Josef Himself, as I am Josef ;) Thank You, if you perfer not to put 1980 then removing the Birth year would be appreciated as an alternative – The preceding unsigned comment was added by CannonVision (talk • contribs) at 22:05 15 August 2021.
- I’ll let Alan address the question of whether the birth year can be removed altogether (I’m not sure what our policy on requests like this is), but I’ll point out that a birth date of 1980 would mean that Mr. Cannon was 9 years old when he appeared in "The Icarus Factor". I’d imagine that was at least part of why the 1980 date was reverted. —Josiah Rowe (talk) 13:27, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Birth years can be removed, but Josiah has it spot on why the 1980 was reverted each time you made the change. -- Sulfur (talk) 13:35, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed. You're birth date wasn't found from rummaging through your trash can, so it can easily be found again by any other competent person, so I'm not sure why it needs to be such a secret, much less a bald-faced lie (-20yrs?!). –Gvsualan (talk) 13:38, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Birth years can be removed, but Josiah has it spot on why the 1980 was reverted each time you made the change. -- Sulfur (talk) 13:35, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
A little help/advice
Hi, Alan. I'm trying to create the pages for the DVD and Blu-rays of the DIS Seasons 1-3 Collection. I initially created them at DIS Seasons 1-3 Collection Blu-ray and DIS Seasons 1-3 Collection DVD, but I noticed that the video disambiguation template wasn't working; it was generating links to "DIS Seasons 1-3 (Blu-ray)" and "DIS Seasons 1-3 (DVD)", with parentheses. I started to move the pages to that format, but then I noticed that other DVD and Blu-ray pages such as LD Season 1 DVD don't have parentheses, and yet the video disambig template works fine.
Not wanting to be a bother, but it's been a couple of days, and no response on this. Right now we've got the DVD collection at DIS Seasons 1-3 Collection DVD (no parentheses), and the Blu-ray at DIS Seasons 1-3 Collection (Blu-ray) (with parentheses). One or the other should probably be moved, and Template:Video disambiguation seems to want the parentheses... but we have lots of other season collections without parentheses. Which way is right? —Josiah Rowe (talk) 03:00, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not entirely sure (they never was a big interest of mine to be involved with). I'll try to look into it today. –Gvsualan (talk) 12:42, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- It seems like those involved weren't consistent with the next.
- The title should just be the title on the package; the medium, if different from a second medium of the same title, would only be qualified (DVD), (Blu-Ray), etc, so like DS9 Season 1 DVD probably should be DS9 Season 1 (DVD), considering that all individual film DVD's are like Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (DVD) and not Star Trek III: The Search for Spock DVD, where the DVD qualifier on the former example qualifies DS9 Season 1.
- So DIS Seasons 1-3 Collection (Blu-ray) and DIS Seasons 1-3 Collection (DVD) should probably be used and DIS Seasons 1-3 Collection a disambiguation page, technically. –Gvsualan (talk) 16:04, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
...on second look, that's not a project I want to take on — mainly because it would involve fiddling with Template:Video disambiguation, which appears to be a hornet's nest. I'll have to leave that for someone more comfortable with template syntax than I am. —Josiah Rowe (talk) 01:34, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Page addition apology.
Hello. I just wanted to apologize for the recent errors in the new page. I recalled that TrekCore had been used before, so that's why I had used it. I didn't realize that it had been considered unreliable or I wouldn't have used it.
Also, in adding to the discussion, I attempted to a few times, but others were adding their thoughts as I tried to, so I received an edit conflict. I just wanted you to know that I did try to add to the discussion and tell everyone that I had found an official source. Anyway, I just wanted to explain what happened there and say that it was unintentional and that I only wanted to help you all out, because the users here do a lot of work and I try to help where I can.
One more Cerritos crew member
Hi, Alan. I see you're working on Unnamed USS Cerritos personnel. I wanted to draw your attention to one more who doesn't yet have a listing: the command lieutenant Kayshon tries (and fails) to pick up at the bar, at the end of "Kayshon, His Eyes Open". She's currently listed in the "background characters" section of that episode as "Human cmd woman at bar", but I'm sure you would know the best way to list her. Cheers! —Josiah Rowe (talk) 19:06, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- I saw that before, hence the "Castro'?'", but generally speaking that is a secondary source, which isn't a valid resource. Now if Startrek.com, or Ruiz, or Mcmahon, etc posted on sm that bit or information, then we could use it. And yes, you'd yhink they would have an official episode credits somewhere for each episode but they don't and it's quite annoying. –Gvsualan (talk) 11:17, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Technically it's a secondary source, but it's one that Memory Alpha has pretty much had to rely on for all the other LD episodes before, so I don't know why Castro gets the ? specifically and not Out-of-breath Pakled or all the guest characters in most previous episodes which were not credited in primary sources? JagoAndLitefoot (talk) 12:48, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- What are you even talking about? I already said it was a secondary source...and, also "Out-of-breath Pakled" isn't a name, it's a description used for identifying what will otherwise be an unnamed character, that is not the case for "Castro"... –Gvsualan (talk) 17:58, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- is that really a confirmation. It looks like someone else offered the name and picture and she mere acknowledged the tweet. Was she acknowledging the picture or the name? I'd hardly call that hard evidence. –Gvsualan (talk) 01:51, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
File:Dress uniform, early 2380s.png should be reverted
- I'm sorry, I thought the article was encyclopedia entry about the depiction of a certain type of Starfleet uniform, not a photo gallery for a Starfleet fashion line. –Gvsualan (talk) 14:52, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Physical Media and Case Types (DVD, HD DVD, Blu-ray disc, and 4K UHD disc.)
Here are the most used case types for these physical media formats. Snap case was only used by Warner Brothers and a few other companies at the beginning of the format. There aren't any Star Trek releases which use this case type. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_case Amaray case was and is still used for DVD and Blu-ray disc releases. More of the latter in Region B UK territory. https://www.unifiedmanufacturing.com/blog/dvd-amaray-case-authentic/ Viva Elite cases are used for DVD, Blu-ray disc, and 4K UHD disc. This case type is used for the vast majority of Star Trek releases on Blu-ray disc and 4K UHD, regardless of the amount of discs. http://goodwoodeshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_38_62&products_id=154 http://goodwoodeshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_58_69&products_id=220 http://goodwoodeshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_59&products_id=424 http://goodwoodeshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=54_60&products_id=408 SteelBook® are metal style cases which are manufactured by Scanavo. Unknown if the registered trademark symbol needs to be included or not for this Wiki. https://steelbook.com/about/ Epik Pak cases are a custom case type from CBS TV and Paramount. Used more often for complete and/or multi-season sets for DVD and Blu-ray disc. https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-The-Original-Series-The-Complete-Series-Blu-ray/154007/#Packaging https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-The-Complete-Series-Blu-ray/153852/#Packaging https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-Enterprise-The-Complete-Series-Blu-ray/169583/#Packaging DigiPack was used for the initial releases of TNG and DS9 on DVD. https://dischounds.com/blogs/blog/the-digipak-demystified-pros-and-cons-of-professional-cd-packaging Custom cases are different from the above. Examples are the initial releases of VOY on DVD and not very many others. https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Star-Trek-Voyager-Seasons-1-7-DVD/22010/#Overview Slipcover is either cardboard, vinyl, or another material which slips over the case to be removed from the top or bottom. https://www.blu-ray.com/images/movies/covers/152679_slip.jpg https://www.blu-ray.com/images/movies/covers/152679_slipback.jpg Slipbox houses the cases from the side. Examples: https://www.blu-ray.com/images/movies/covers/294202_overview.jpg https://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/13612_3_1080p.jpg There are a multitude of other case types utilized from various companies. -- AdmiralNoodles (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2021 (UTC)